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   Message 19,127 of 19,807   
   Pamela to Keema's Nan   
   Re: Boris Johnson says he won't be 'bull   
   05 Jul 20 14:58:04   
   
   XPost: uk.politics.misc   
   From: pamela.ukpm@gmail.com   
      
   On 12:57  5 Jul 2020, Keema's Nan said:   
      
   > On 5 Jul 2020, Pamela wrote (in article   
   > ):   
   >   
   >> On 13:20 4 Jul 2020, Keema's Nan said:   
   >> > On 4 Jul 2020, Dan S. MacAbre wrote (in article   
   >> > ):   
   >> > > Col wrote:   
   >> > > > On 04/07/2020 09:10, JNugent wrote:   
   >> > > > > On 03/07/2020 23:46, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Fine words; but he was happy enough to clap for the NHS on   
   >> > > > > > Thurdays.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > "...things they *don't* want to do..."   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > People doing what they DO want to do is another matter, surely?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > He also said he didn't believe in 'gestures'. Well wasn't the NHS   
   >> > > > clap just that?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Certainly was, which was why I never did it. The neighbours still   
   >> > > seem happy to talk to me. But I'd guess that only about a third of   
   >> > > them actually bothered. I was once out working on the car when some   
   >> > > of them started doing it - it was a bit odd.   
   >> >   
   >> > Yes it was strange to me as well, mainly because I had no idea of the   
   >> > time.   
   >> >   
   >> > I was in the garden shed looking for an old shovel (that is my   
   >> > excuse) when I heard this strange sound coming from somewhere outside   
   >> > one Thursday evening. I just assumed it was a neighbour doing some   
   >> > weird gardening until I found the shovel and stepped outside. Then it   
   >> > dawned on me that it was clapping and banging of saucepans.   
   >> >   
   >> > I hadn't realised it was 8pm, not that it would have mattered because   
   >> > I am not going to be kow-towed by the virtue signalling snowflakes.   
   >>   
   >> I'm not sure clapping for the NHS was virtue signalling as much as   
   >> encouragement for NHS staff to risk going to work on Covid wards and be   
   >> there to save them in their hour of need.   
   >   
   > That was true of the initial Thursday, but when it became *every*   
   > Thursday at a designated time supported by mainstream media, it changed   
   > from a genuine ’thank you’ gesture into a more sinister ‘do this   
   > or we will shame you into submission’ idea.   
   >   
   >> The gesture is borne out of fear and self-interest.   
   >>   
   >> Not that the NHS did particualrly well. One cause of the UK's colossal   
   >> death rate was the NHS triaging away the Covid sick and discharging   
   >> many prematurely.   
   >   
   > I assume they had no choice in the matter. There must have been a   
   > central instruction to get rid of ageing bed-blockers, otherwise so many   
   > individual hospitals would not have done that.   
   >   
   > That instruction may have been highly confidential and has probably now   
   > been destroyed, but I could guess where it originated.   
      
   In an instruction to hospitals the government specifically instructed that   
   "negative tests are not required prior to transfers or admissions into the   
   care home".  This was later changed but the new instruction to test   
   negative was widely ignored.   
      
   Boris and Matt Hancock often hide this by referring to "medically approved   
   discharges".  Ha!  The Mail has this story about it:   
      
      "Furious care chief launches blistering attack on government for   
      emptying hospitals and filling care homes with infected residents"   
      
   https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8335611/Elderly-hospital-   
   patients-COVID-19-symptoms-discharged-care-homes-WITHOUT-tests.html   
      
   OR  http://dailym.ai/2BEL8UD   
      
   >> It was so bad that hospitals always had unused capacity while the sick   
   >> were dying in the community. This is now triumphed as an achievement by   
   >> a master stroke of doublethink.   
   >   
   > Isn't that the forte of the politician? To turn everything into a   
   > disaster but spin it as if it were a triumph.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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