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|    Jos Boersema to All    |
|    USA people calling for tyranny//Re: Lawl    |
|    24 Jul 20 09:08:23    |
      XPost: soc.culture.jewish       From: joshb@xs4all.nl              The story keeps unfolding to establish a tyranny in the USA. We are now       seeing people wearing military green deployed as a first line of control       against an unarmed youth mob of often no more than several hundred       individuals. At least in one instance they seemed to be armed with machine       guns and at other times (more usually) with pepper ball guns. There must       have been more than enough riot police available to deal with the minor       disturbance, but they chose to use military people.              The American people, judging from reactions to livestreams on youtube in       the chat bar, seem to have their predictable and childish reaction. They       hysterically think that the protest is very large and dangerous, which       it is not. They do not understand that the ruling class is creating       these protests, because they live their lives with their minds       controlled from birth by the mass media Divide & Conquer system. They       predictably voice support for Trump over the protests, and don't take       into account that the protests could well be set up (which I'm sure they       are) to further the cause of Trump his power grab and chance to rule as       a Strong Man over the American looming (military) dictatorship. If this       seems far fetched, and it might be under other circumstances: add a       large and serious war into the mix, giving the US ruling class more       power to start to rule (even more) as lawless dictators.              An example which just happened is rather stark. At this moment there is       a youth mob in Portland, held back by a fense. One person claiming to       be a marine said he had on a previous ocassion of these protests called       for using live rounds on the protesters, which at that time where using       molotov coctails. The individual in question says to be scared that       these youth mobs will install a tyranny in the USA. After some pushback       along the lines of the necessity to first deploy the riot police (which       has usually been proven effective, even if in some riots there was the       odd molotov coctail), it becomes clear that there is a large proportion       of the American people who supports a blood bath against unarmed youths,       done by the military, without considering the deployement of more       rational and proportional methods first. It even does not help to point       out that a massacre by the military of such a youth mob with live rounds       (bullets), will create an outcry and lead to support for the “Black       Lives Matter” group and its associates (who in my opinion are run by the       ruling class, to further the Divide & Conquer system).              The Secretary of Defense of the United States has stepped down over just       this. Yet common Americans seem to remain oblivious of the grave       implications of what the would be tyrannical US ruling class is doing,       or the grave historical precedents which are being replayed: the fall of       the Roman Republic (a sorely rotten Plutocracy by that time), when       Ceasar crossed the Rubicon river with his army, to deploy his army as a       political tool, which had always been forbidden by the rules of Rome       (which essentially only was a Republic within that city of Rome itself,       and at the end a weak and corrupted one, overwhelmed by the greed of the       super rich, as we see today in the western Empire and especially the USA).              I will quote some of the verbiage used, which after all was done in a       public chat with many participants, and which could end up as part of       the public record on youtube. I will remove the name, which was       anonymous anyway.                     • I've openly advocated for the feds to switch to live rounds when they        were throwing molotov's yesterday              • They actually weren't unarmed yesterday and were given warnings the        entire night and continued to throw explosives until 4 am.              • No they had molotov cocktails last night homie.              • Yeah, all military are brainwashed killers is the foundation of his        argument but won't concede fire and explosives is a danger to public        safety and that it should continue unhindered.              • Yes, I did. They have and would try to burn down government buildings        and continue to try to establish communism and the media is going to        perpetuate them as victims regardless.              • Yeah, so if they establish a tyrannical government with this as a guise        and millions of children are starving to death, you can go down in        history as too afraid to hard these people              There is three other persons in this argument, renamed: A, B and C.              A: The power of the nuclear family is not to be underestimated. That's        why the seek to dismantle it. One of BLM and Antifa's goals       (…)       A: I've openly advocated for the feds to switch to live rounds when they        were throwing molotov's yesterday       (…)       Jos Boersema: Yes the family is very important, marriage needs to come        back & hollywood needs to stop promoting divorce and chaos.       (…)       Jos Boersema: Live rounds on unarmed youth mob is a grave overreaction,        and if you are *against* these protesters, you even risk        fueling their cause because you will have some outrage        over that.       (…)       Jos Boersema: It's funny I realize, you being a marine, that's just how        you are trained to think, right ? I'm not judging that,        but see this may be the reason for no military against        civilians.       (…)       B: Did the USA ever have anthrax? We need someone to release some of that!       (…)       Jos Boersema: Pick the right fight, once the protesters arm up and start        assaulting city hall, time to break out the howitzers        and take them down. I'd support that 100%. No Euromaidan.              A: They actually weren't unarmed yesterday and were given warnings the        entire night and continued to throw explosives until 4 am.       (…)       Jos Boersema: Their fireworks are hardly handgrenades, the garbage they        throw is a far cry from shooting bullets. First deploy        softer methods, there is more than enough police force        available.       (…)       C: @Jos Boersema really again with this lefty logic? come on try again       (…)       C: You're Misinformed. and.it shows       (…)       Jos Boersema: Ok even if they had molotov coctails, you still have to        first try with the riot police. You can't be serious that        you want to strave this crowd to death, you know they will        easy 50% die       (…)       A: @C Yeah, all military are brainwashed killers is the foundation of        his argument but won't concede fire and explosives is a danger to        public safety and that it should continue unhindered.       (…)       Jos Boersema: @C Try to keep to the topic, not the person ? I'm making              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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