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   Jos Boersema to All   
   USA people calling for tyranny//Re: Lawl   
   24 Jul 20 09:01:23   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: joshb@xs4all.nl   
      
   The story keeps unfolding to establish a tyranny in the USA. We are now   
   seeing people wearing military green deployed as a first line of control   
   against an unarmed youth mob of often no more than several hundred   
   individuals. At least in one instance they seemed to be armed with machine   
   guns and at other times (more usually) with pepper ball guns. There must   
   have been more than enough riot police available to deal with the minor   
   disturbance, but they chose to use military people.   
      
   The American people, judging from reactions to livestreams on youtube in   
   the chat bar, seem to have their predictable and childish reaction. They   
   hysterically think that the protest is very large and dangerous, which   
   it is not. They do not understand that the ruling class is creating   
   these protests, because they live their lives with their minds   
   controlled from birth by the mass media Divide & Conquer system. They   
   predictably voice support for Trump over the protests, and don't take   
   into account that the protests could well be set up (which I'm sure they   
   are) to further the cause of Trump his power grab and chance to rule as   
   a Strong Man over the American looming (military) dictatorship. If this   
   seems far fetched, and it might be under other circumstances: add a   
   large and serious war into the mix, giving the US ruling class more   
   power to start to rule (even more) as lawless dictators.   
      
   An example which just happened is rather stark. At this moment there is   
   a youth mob in Portland, held back by a fense. One person claiming to   
   be a marine said he had on a previous ocassion of these protests called   
   for using live rounds on the protesters, which at that time where using   
   molotov coctails. The individual in question says to be scared that   
   these youth mobs will install a tyranny in the USA. After some pushback   
   along the lines of the necessity to first deploy the riot police (which   
   has usually been proven effective, even if in some riots there was the   
   odd molotov coctail), it becomes clear that there is a large proportion   
   of the American people who supports a blood bath against unarmed youths,   
   done by the military, without considering the deployement of more   
   rational and proportional methods first. It even does not help to point   
   out that a massacre by the military of such a youth mob with live rounds   
   (bullets), will create an outcry and lead to support for the “Black   
   Lives Matter” group and its associates (who in my opinion are run by the   
   ruling class, to further the Divide & Conquer system).   
      
   The Secretary of Defense of the United States has stepped down over just   
   this. Yet common Americans seem to remain oblivious of the grave   
   implications of what the would be tyrannical US ruling class is doing,   
   or the grave historical precedents which are being replayed: the fall of   
   the Roman Republic (a sorely rotten Plutocracy by that time), when   
   Ceasar crossed the Rubicon river with his army, to deploy his army as a   
   political tool, which had always been forbidden by the rules of Rome   
   (which essentially only was a Republic within that city of Rome itself,   
   and at the end a weak and corrupted one, overwhelmed by the greed of the   
   super rich, as we see today in the western Empire and especially the USA).   
      
   I will quote some of the verbiage used, which after all was done in a   
   public chat with many participants, and which could end up as part of   
   the public record on youtube. I will remove the name, which was   
   anonymous anyway.   
      
      
   • I've openly advocated for the feds to switch to live rounds when they   
     were throwing molotov's yesterday   
      
   • They actually weren't unarmed yesterday and were given warnings the   
     entire night and continued to throw explosives until 4 am.   
      
   • No they had molotov cocktails last night homie.   
      
   • Yeah, all military are brainwashed killers is the foundation of his   
     argument but won't concede fire and explosives is a danger to public   
     safety and that it should continue unhindered.   
      
   • Yes, I did. They have and would try to burn down government buildings   
     and continue to try to establish communism and the media is going to   
     perpetuate them as victims regardless.   
      
   • Yeah, so if they establish a tyrannical government with this as a guise   
     and millions of children are starving to death, you can go down in   
     history as too afraid to hard these people   
      
   There is three other persons in this argument, renamed: A, B and C.   
      
   A: The power of the nuclear family is not to be underestimated. That's   
      why the seek to dismantle it. One of BLM and Antifa's goals   
   (…)   
   A: I've openly advocated for the feds to switch to live rounds when they   
      were throwing molotov's yesterday   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: Yes the family is very important, marriage needs to come   
                 back & hollywood needs to stop promoting divorce and chaos.   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: Live rounds on unarmed youth mob is a grave overreaction,   
                 and if you are *against* these protesters, you even risk   
                 fueling their cause because you will have some outrage   
                 over that.   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: It's funny I realize, you being a marine, that's just how   
                 you are trained to think, right ? I'm not judging that,   
                 but see this may be the reason for no military against   
                 civilians.  B: Did the USA ever have anthrax? We need   
                 someone to release some of that!   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: Pick the right fight, once the protesters arm up and start   
                  assaulting city hall, time to break out the howitzers   
                  and take them down. I'd support that 100%. No Euromaidan.   
      
   A: They actually weren't unarmed yesterday and were given warnings the   
      entire night and continued to throw explosives until 4 am.   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: Their fireworks are hardly handgrenades, the garbage they   
                 throw is a far cry from shooting bullets. First deploy   
                 softer methods, there is more than enough police force   
                 available.   
   (…)   
   C: @Jos Boersema really again with this lefty logic? come on try again   
   (…)   
   C: You're Misinformed. and.it shows   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: Ok even if they had molotov coctails, you still have to   
                 first try with the riot police. You can't be serious that   
                 you want to strave this crowd to death, you know they will   
                 easy 50% die   
   (…)   
   A: @C Yeah, all military are brainwashed killers is the foundation of   
      his argument but won't concede fire and explosives is a danger to   
      public safety and that it should continue unhindered.   
   (…)   
   Jos Boersema: @C Try to keep to the topic, not the person ? I'm making   
      
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