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   Jos Boersema to All   
   Revolution & religion   
   05 Aug 20 14:34:56   
   
   From: see@website.there   
      
   Jesus idolators should be given the option to repent from their idolatry,   
   but eventually the worship of idols would better be prohibited in public   
   (which includes Jesus), because (at least in my opinion) the worship   
   of idols is destructive of people their political will to keep their   
   Nation in good working order. What they tend to do instead, is wait for   
   their idol to come fix things. They spend time in special buildings doing   
   rituals like mumbling texts or closing their eyes, seemingly in an effort   
   to use magic to resolve real world problems. This however rarely works,   
   perhaps especially because the idol doesn't even really exist (such as   
   is the case with Jesus, who was created by Rome as occupation propaganda   
   against Israel.)   
      
   Speaking of Israel, there we have another State which is well known   
   for its prohibition against idolatry, and who has almost done anything   
   they could to stamp out idolatry from their Nation, in which they where   
   moderately successful up to this point. I imagine anyone who holds the   
   5 books of Moshe Rabbeinu in high regard, will know the story, and look   
   upon it with favor.   
      
   I guess one logic I can posit, is the following. In a non-idolatrous   
   conception of God (the Creator), of whom may not be made any image or   
   statue and who does not allow himself to be worshiped next to other   
   gods (such as Osiris, Zeus or Jesus, Ashtarah or other things and   
   imaginative creatures), the logic becomes: God made everything, and that   
   even includes our enemies, and our problems. We would then logically   
   have to conclude (or we could) that we have been given our problems   
   to solve them, ourselves that is (to the degree we can), because they   
   all come from the Creator, because everything comes from the Creator   
   (and that includes Satan, if you would like to put it in such terms,   
   “all that is evil”). It is here to overcome it, to deal with it,   
   to resolve it, to grow in the process. In such an interpretation, we   
   don't sit in some building mumbling texts and closing our eyes, no we   
   would be out resolving the problems.   
      
   That is why I want to prohibit the Jesus idolatry system, because it is   
   a threat to the maintenance of society. People who worship Jesus, too   
   often sit on their hands because they have been taught to wait on Jesus,   
   and because they have been taught that there is this “powerful”   
   entity called Satan, seemingly just about half as powerful as Jesus,   
   and the two are in some kind of war, and we just have to sit and wait   
   until Jesus solves everything.   
      
   I see this directly play out in the two labor union umbrellas we have   
   in the Netherlands: FNV and CNV, the former is without idolatry, the   
   latter is with. Now there are certainly other issues with FNV I don't   
   agree with, but CNV is always the weaker brother of the FNV. CNV (the   
   Jesus idolators) are always the more subservient ones to the ruling class.   
      
   Then there is also lots of problems with the Jesus system itself,   
   among which the fact that it is just not true what they are saying,   
   and then the problem of the indoctrination of children into this wayward   
   sub-culture. If you want to know what happened, you are invited to watch:   
   Ceasar's Messiah, on youtube. I think they nailed it. Truth of error   
   however is not enough grounds to ban something, but I do think that it   
   may be impossible to maintain a good Republic with Jesus idolators.   
      
   Hence what I am looking at, is more of a split than some sort of   
   expulsion, in an effort to get to a Distributist Republic without   
   influence from the idolators, even if this means that Republic to be   
   quite small. The idolators and non-idolators. It isn't violent and not   
   supposed to be violent. It is equally likely that the non-idolators will   
   be the ones moving, and most of the idolators staying where they are,   
   if they are an unrepenting majority there.   
      
   [From a reply on reddit]   
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