From: joshb@xs4all.nl   
      
   On 2020-08-05, New York Libertarians  wrote:   
   > Machines are steadily replacing humans on the production lines - a trend   
   > likely to continue. AI is augmenting higher functioning tasks. The demand   
   > for people must be Dropping. But capitalists & bankers were already   
   > eliminated in socialist societies with apparatchiks & dictators. In   
   > other places like the US politicians are the apparatchiks. AI will never   
   > be figure out how to best distribute stuff. Why? Because reason has   
   > little,to,do with politics. Humans are motivated by self interest. So   
   > it will be as long as there are humans.   
      
   The trend of machines replacing humans isn't anything new, it has been   
   happening for centuries. Everything goes wrong with this, because people   
   do not have their inalienable right to an equal value share of the   
   natural resources honored.   
      
   People who don't understand this, have a great problem. I have found out   
   that I can spell it out as if talking to a child aged 5, but it doesn't   
   matter, they still don't seem to be able to understand it. Eventually   
   policies are being threatened by the ruling class, who will deal with   
   the problem in *their* way. This means forced population reduction,   
   better known as mass murder.   
      
   The benefit of technological development goes to the owner class. Hence   
   the land labor became the factory labor, because they where out of work.   
   They where abuse in the factories with low wages, because they didn't   
   have land to retreat back to and set up their own work shops. Now they   
   are even becoming useless in the factories. I see only one way for them   
   to go: into the ground, as corpses. That would be their last service:   
   compost.   
      
   First removed from the land, which they should have owned but they didn't   
   manage to get together to resolve that. Then they became useless on land   
   because of new machines, so they went to the cities. They sortof   
   concentrated themselves and where stripped off the land. There they made   
   more machines. They did fight for better wages, which had a lot of   
   successes, and that is a good thing. However they *never* solved the   
   land question, and it became even harder for them to solve that question   
   because they where alienated from what land is. They don't understand   
   that land is everything. Now ever more of them become useless even in   
   the cities, and as far as the ruling class is concerned, there is only   
   one direction for these great and useless masses: termination. They   
   *become* the soil (compost). Perhaps the moral logic is: if they want to   
   be so stupid as not to own soil, they are as good as soil themselves.   
      
   They don't understand the severity of all this either, they understand   
   literally *nothing*. Their understanding is not going to be required   
   when they are being culled by the millions though. It will just happen,   
   maybe they will let their jaw hang open in amazement, and then they die.   
   Maybe they die of starvation, of bombs, diseases, who knows.   
      
   This is the future the ruling class has planned for them. Obviously I   
   oppose it, and propose a different way out of the problem. However it   
   starts with understanding, but people are not willing to put in the   
   effort to learn how economics works. They don't seem to realize that it   
   is a life and death situation for them. They are behaving as cattle. I   
   am convinced they will continue to behave as cattle, until about half of   
   humanity has been culled. Somewhere in that region. Maybe 30%, maybe   
   80%, who knows.   
      
   Most of the poeple don't care about hundreds of millions of people   
   being murdered by their own Government, they might not even care about   
   being killed themselves. Prolonged suffering however, might be something   
   else. Something like the 14th century, or the abuses in the factories   
   of the 1800s. Concidering far too little was achieved, and we still have   
   masses of people calling for “universal basic income” the situation   
   is not rosy by any stretch of the imagination. The masses may well have   
   *degenerated* further, rather than learn something to build on.   
      
   The masses of people have no idea how bad they are, that's one of the   
   big problems with them. They think they are already half way ok, or even   
   very ok. It just isn't true. They underestimate very much what they   
   should already have become, but refused to. The difference is going to   
   have to be made up, under potentially the worst of conditions.   
      
   This is one reason I want to start to contract relatively strong willed   
   groups who want to Secede and start smaller Nations, because we can no   
   longer wait on the great and ignorant masses, their stupidity and all   
   the rest of what they do. Once we have enough for a Sovereignty, we   
   should start working toward it. Not necessarily to breach out quickly,   
   but methodically work towards it. I realize that usually a Secession   
   involves a war. So be it, we'll have the war, we'll fight these   
   corrupted and ignorant masses to the death if we have to. It's better to   
   die in such a war, than to see all the effort get dilluted and wasted   
   once more on the impervious shores of mass ignorance.   
      
   I think it takes several million people to have a chance at Sovereignty.   
   It seems wise to put a new Sovereignty establishment on a timeline in   
   the order of one to three centuries. It will have to be done with lots   
   and lots of preparation and living the right way, first. Otherwise it   
   will be useless. With luck, such a movement grows, event tremendously,   
   and with more luck we might even take along the whole Nation into a   
   better arrangement. If not, so be it, the time must come that we are   
   going to split away because slow dillution on the eternal grind against   
   obstinacy and idiocy is not an option. Sooner or later we will have to   
   establish the Sovereignty of good people, and do things the right way.   
      
   It isn't possible to wait forever on people who will never change for the   
   better. There are many people who never think at all, they aren't able   
   to do it even if they tried. They could however still do “monkey see   
   monkey do”. That is why we need many different Sovereign Nation. We help   
   these cattle people, by being a different Nation than them, and show   
   them how much better we live than them. Maybe they will then adopt good   
   things, and if they don't, then they don't but their wayward ways don't   
   bog us down anymore. Soon their idiotic wars probably won't hurt us   
   anymore, because a Nation with better people, more freedom and   
   solidarity, tends to be a much stronger one. If they attack us, we will   
   likely ravage them as we please.   
      
   I think that is more or less how the future will look.   
      
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