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|    Jos Boersema to All    |
|    Revolution    |
|    21 Aug 20 14:19:04    |
      XPost: alt.politics.socialism.democratic       From: joshb@xs4all.nl              I think it is best to have a multi-purpose system, which ranges from       individual easy to do activities: propaganda, using your buying power,       setting up co-operative businesses, to reform using the State, to a       civil tidy and cute “velvet glove” Revolution, to resistance to       tyranny, if need be armed, to open front civil war, to a distributed       cell resistance inside a tyranny we cannot overthrow yet.              Take your pick in what you think you can do, and what is needed. If you       want the exact details, I'll be happy to get into it. Right now I think       we better be ready to defend others from tyranny, and everything on the       less forceful spectrum should also be done.               •              What I would call the Revolution, is when we replace Parliament with the       Council Government. You can argue that the Revolution is great changes in       the economy. Since by definition Socialism is democratic (or at least I       wouldn't call it Social(ist) if it isn't), a change in the economy would       by definition be voted in, right ? Since we want a more democratic State       than Parliament can provide (who are elected every 4 years, and then they       do whatever they want, which is precisely what the 1917 Revolutionary       Council Governments where about, correct ?), it follows that it couldn't       even work if there wasn't at least a local majority behind it.              In any case, the method I see is: we can join and should join       Parliamentary elections. At the same time we set up the Council       Government, but we play-act it as a good cause. It is open to all to vote       in, and runs on donations. Then it does good works, whatever that may       be. Over time it might become more popular than Parliament. If it has more       voters in it than in Parliament, it naturally becomes Sovereign. If that       happens, our political parties would already be in control of Parliament,       anyway. Hence the Revolution could be a non event.              Expected time to complete a project like this: 50-300 years. It can       only happen faster if there are sudden grave changes in the world,       which make the population change their mind in a drastic way. Such       changes shouldn't be actively sought, but if they happen they should       be exploited. Such changes will come, because Capitalist Parliament is       notoriously corrupt. It is only a matter of time until the next World War,       the complete wrecking of the economy by the Plutocracy, etc.              https://www.reddit.com/r/Market_Socialism/comments/idq62o/do_you       consider_yourself_revolutionaries/       --       https://market.socialism.nl How economics works, and how to get it fixed.       Free Julian Assange and all other people attacked by western Fascism.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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