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   q9c4of976oe6f52n476vsqcsk05roo7g0h@4ax.com posing as Don Kresch wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 14:22:45 -0000 (UTC), Malcolm McMahon   
   > malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk   
    ________________   
   >> Marxists tend to regard socialists with contempt,   
   >>   
   NO they don't. However not all socialist ideologies were based during the   
   days of Marx, before and/or after, on proper socioeconomic analysis.   
   See for instance, going back as far as Plato's philosophy or back that   
   English humanist Sir Thomas More (see in his Utopia 1516), or the French   
   Revolution (1789) or look at the Fabian Society which started during the   
   late Nineteenth Century just to name a few. Do not forget many of the   
   religions teaching certain forms of socialist ideals.   
      
   Marxism is NOT about contempt, but it is about creating a better and more   
   resilient future society based on properly understanding past   
   socioeconomic anomalies plaguing human societies throughout history.   
   >   
   > 	Then why did Marx and Engels use socialism and communism   
   > interchangeably?   
   >   
   They did NOT. Try reading before you pontificate.   
   >   
   >> because it's actually a   
   >> measured dose of socialism that has _prevented_ the prolitarian   
   >> revolution in the places it has been applied. Marx, quite rightly I   
   >> think, predicted that unrestrained capitalism would   
   >   
   > 	1. Marx listed every economic fallacies in capitalism there are.   
   >   
   Typo corrected free of charge!   
   >   
   > 	2. Name even one place where there has been "unrestrained   
   >          captialism". Even one.   
   >   
   Easy peasy! Take for instance the USA, UK, Chile and the Philippines.   
   Capitalist corporations and billionaires run the show (specially the   
   governments) for their own profit accumulation schemes almost 100%   
   unrestrained. Fuck the rest of the population.   
   > 	   
   > 	Marx was piss-poor at economics.   
   >   
   YAWN!   
   >   
   > 	Socialism is how to spread misery.   
      
   BS   
   Socialism how you lift society to a more equitable level.   
      
   --   
   'Steve'   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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