XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: JW@jw.com   
      
   On 1/22/2021 8:42 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   > On 23/01/2021 2:22 pm, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >> On 1/22/2021 8:11 PM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:   
   >>> Just Wondering wrote on 2021-01-22 9:51 PM:   
   >>>> On 1/22/2021 2:26 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>>>> On 23/01/2021 8:14 am, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 1/22/2021 1:39 PM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote on 2021-01-22 3:30 PM:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 10. I lost all my guns in an unfortunate boating accident.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Did that boating accident happen inside a pawnshop?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It happened in open water.   
   >>>>>> It happened to millions of people.   
   >>>>>> Lots of guns accidentally falling into the ocean is the   
   >>>>>> reason water levels are rising.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Actually dropping a rifle into the water from a boat will cause the   
   >>>>> water level to fall. Well the boat is on shore   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 1.  Boat is on shore.   
   >>>> 2.  Gunowner puts stuff into boat including gun, takes it to   
   >>>>     water and launches it.   
   >>>> 3.  Boating accident, gun falls overboard.   
   >>>> 4.  Gunowner removes boat from water.   
   >>>> 5.  Final result is a permanent rise in water level.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> OR   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 1.  Boat is permanently docked in water.   
   >>>> 2.  Gunowner puts gun in boat.  Water level rises.   
   >>>> 3.  Boating accident, gun falls overboard.  Displacement from gun   
   >>>>     in water equals loss of displacement from gun no longer in boat.   
   >>>   
   >>> Wrong. The gun displaces more water when it is in the boat than when   
   >>> it is in water.   
   >>>   
   >>> Similarly, a gigantic ship displaces more water when it is floating   
   >>> than when it is sunk because steel is a lot heavier than water.   
   >>   
   >> Nice strawman you've got there.  The fact remains that the water   
   >> level is higher because the gun is submerged than if the gun wasn't   
   >> there at all.  The fact that the water level was higher still when   
   >> the gun was in a floating boat does not change the final result.   
   >> The water level is still higher with a gun in it than without the gun.   
   >   
   > Quit while you're behind. Archimedes principle applies but you must   
   > remember the relevant physical factor of the object changes from mass to   
   > volume   
      
   Water level 1:  Before gun is placed in boat.   
   Water level 1a: When gun is placed in boat.   
   Water level 2:  After gun is dropped from boat into water.   
   Result:  level 2 > level 1.   
   The fact that level 1a > level 2 does not change the final   
   result.  And that's your problem.  You want to compare 1a   
   and 2, when you should be comparing 1 and 2.   
      
   And you're still ignoring the real question, "Why do you own   
   a gun?" and the correct answer, "None of your damn business."   
      
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