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   Fran to Oleg Smirnov   
   Re: Improvisations on the meaning of "Fr   
   12 Feb 22 12:10:31   
   
   XPost: can.politics, aus.politics, us.politics   
   From: LNPtrollbust1@loonynutters.com   
      
   On 11/02/2022 5:27 pm, Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
   > *Ördög*,    
   >> Fran   
   >>> Oleg Smirnov   
   >   
   >>>> Anyone who'd learn the etymological origin of the word 'freedom' (not   
   >>>> only in English, in many languages it's similar), would find it's not   
   >>>> as nice as in the modern [leftist] meaning.   
   >>>   
   >> Strangely it is NOT the political left that is mis/abusing this word.   
   >> Here comes the hard right claiming to have absolute monopoly on the   
   >> concept of freedom...mostly the freedoms to discriminate, abuse, and   
   >> disenfranchise others solely for their own personal pleasure and   
   >> benefits.   
   >>   
   >> They interpret it a free pass to do anything and everything they like in   
   >> complete disregard to the possible harm it causes to others.   
   >   
   > The fact is, the very original meaning of 'freedom' included the   
   > freedoms to discriminate and abuse some "disenfranchised" others.   
   > The word 'freedom' developed its meaning in contrasting free people   
   > with unfree people. If one excludes the latter from the context,   
   > then it's no longer clear what 'freedom' really means.   
      
   That isn't a 'fact' supported by the etymology given in 20 volume Oxford   
   Dictionary.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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