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   From: os333@netc.eu   
      
   *Ördög*,    
   > Fran   
   >> Oleg Smirnov   
      
   >>> Anyone who'd learn the etymological origin of the word 'freedom' (not   
   >>> only in English, in many languages it's similar), would find it's not   
   >>> as nice as in the modern [leftist] meaning.   
   >>   
   > Strangely it is NOT the political left that is mis/abusing this word.   
   > Here comes the hard right claiming to have absolute monopoly on the   
   > concept of freedom...mostly the freedoms to discriminate, abuse, and   
   > disenfranchise others solely for their own personal pleasure and benefits.   
   >   
   > They interpret it a free pass to do anything and everything they like in   
   > complete disregard to the possible harm it causes to others.   
      
   The fact is, the very original meaning of 'freedom' included the   
   freedoms to discriminate and abuse some "disenfranchised" others.   
   The word 'freedom' developed its meaning in contrasting free people   
   with unfree people. If one excludes the latter from the context,   
   then it's no longer clear what 'freedom' really means.   
      
   > And that is why most rational people with healthy minds (i.e. the   
   > political hard right is by this qualifier automatically excluded) well   
   > understand that one's freedom ends where someone else's begins. That is   
   > why humans have evolved as a social species and not as lone preditors   
   > like some other species have.   
      
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