XPost: can.politics, aus.politics, us.politics   
   From: LNPtrollbust1@loonynutters.com   
      
   On 12/02/2022 12:57 pm, *Ördög* wrote:   
   > It was written by Fran:   
   >   
   > /snip/   
   >   
   >   
   >>> The fact is, the very original meaning of 'freedom' included the   
   >>> freedoms to discriminate and abuse some "disenfranchised" others. The   
   >>> word 'freedom' developed its meaning in contrasting free people with   
   >>> unfree people. If one excludes the latter from the context, then it's   
   >>> no longer clear what 'freedom' really means.   
   >>   
   >> That isn't a 'fact' supported by the etymology given in 20 volume Oxford   
   >> Dictionary.   
   >   
   > Would those who throw around this now severely weaponized word the most   
   > in the Anglophone Universe (i.e. far right and religious loons and   
   > conservative capitalist libertarians) all adhere strictly to the Oxford   
   > Dictionary's definitions ??????????   
      
   Agreed but regardless of that Oleg's statement of 'fact' is not   
   supported by my dictionary.   
   >   
   > I have my strong doubts.   
   >   
      
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