XPost: can.politics, aus.politics, us.politics   
   From: os333@netc.eu   
      
   Fran,    
   > On 11/02/2022 5:24 pm, Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
   >> Fran,    
   >>> On 11/02/2022 5:46 am, Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
   >>>> *Ördög*,    
   >>>   
   >>>>> The word *Freedom* is certainly not the only one.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Anyone who'd learn the etymological origin of the word 'freedom'   
   >>>> (not only in English, in many languages it's similar), would find   
   >>>> it's not as nice as in the modern [leftist] meaning.   
   >>>   
   >>> Hmmmmmm. From observation, I strongly suspect thaat the word 'freedom' in   
   >>> a political context is much more used by raging hard   
   >>> right/neo fascists than lefties. eg the freedom convoy in Canada.   
   >>   
   >> In a political context, 'freedom' became a well-worn word within   
   >> liberal thoughts, and in the [North] American use, Liberals are more   
   >> associated with Leftists.   
   >   
   > Maybe in the US but the US is uniquely weird when it comes to politics,   
   > political jargan and how to usurp prefectly valid words and make them   
   > socially unacceptable.   
      
   The US-leading 'west' has to adapt to the American trends anyway.   
      
   >> In more original meaning, liberty connotes more like "freedom from   
   >> [despotic] restrictions", and the supporters of the "freedom convoy"   
   >> seek to claim their protest is against unreasonable restrictions.   
   >   
   > The 'freedom' convoys/marches are full of fruitcakes, loons and strange bed   
   > fellows with disparate aims and goals.   
      
   It may be, but it still doesn't change the basic fact that they protest   
   against what they perceive as excessive restrictiveness, hence they   
   employ the "freedom" term.   
      
   > I've yet to see any claims out of the various convoys/marches that make   
   > sense in mainstream society.   
      
   The Atlanticist political mainstream had made 'freedom' a big word,   
   especially in foreign policies, and then the abuse is naturally coming   
   into domestic affairs too. Those people were taught they are supposed   
   to live in the 'free world'. So some dislike what they see as excessive   
   restrictions and regulations.   
      
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