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   Fran to Oleg Smirnov   
   Re: Improvisations on the meaning of "Fr   
   13 Feb 22 15:12:52   
   
   XPost: can.politics, aus.politics, us.politics   
   From: LNPtrollbust1@loonynutters.com   
      
   On 12/02/2022 10:48 pm, Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
   > *Ördög*,    
   >> It was written by Fran:   
   >   
   >>>> The fact is, the very original meaning of 'freedom' included the   
   >>>> freedoms to discriminate and abuse some "disenfranchised" others. The   
   >>>> word 'freedom' developed its meaning in contrasting free people with   
   >>>> unfree people. If one excludes the latter from the context, then it's   
   >>>> no longer clear what 'freedom' really means.   
   >>>   
   >>> That isn't a 'fact' supported by the etymology given in 20 volume Oxford   
   >>> Dictionary.   
   >>   
   >> Would those who throw around this now severely weaponized word the most   
   >> in the Anglophone Universe (i.e. far right and religious loons and   
   >> conservative capitalist libertarians) all adhere strictly to the Oxford   
   >> Dictionary's definitions ??????????   
   >   
   > Of course, not. There's a cult of freedom, akin to a religious   
   > cult, the word has become a cultist fetish, and it's natural that   
   > misc people may seek to adapt the word to their particular views.   
      
   There may be such a 'cult' where you live but.................  There   
   are certainly a few loons in this country who've adopted the US   
   witterings about 'freedom' but they are the fringe loons who are several   
   6 packs short of a party.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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