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   Oleg Smirnov to All   
   Re: Improvisations on the meaning of "Fr   
   12 Feb 22 14:48:20   
   
   XPost: can.politics, aus.politics, us.politics   
   From: os333@netc.eu   
      
   *Ördög*,    
   > It was written by Fran:   
      
   >>> The fact is, the very original meaning of 'freedom' included the   
   >>> freedoms to discriminate and abuse some "disenfranchised" others. The   
   >>> word 'freedom' developed its meaning in contrasting free people with   
   >>> unfree people. If one excludes the latter from the context, then it's   
   >>> no longer clear what 'freedom' really means.   
   >>   
   >> That isn't a 'fact' supported by the etymology given in 20 volume Oxford   
   >> Dictionary.   
   >   
   > Would those who throw around this now severely weaponized word the most   
   > in the Anglophone Universe (i.e. far right and religious loons and   
   > conservative capitalist libertarians) all adhere strictly to the Oxford   
   > Dictionary's definitions ??????????   
      
   Of course, not. There's a cult of freedom, akin to a religious   
   cult, the word has become a cultist fetish, and it's natural that   
   misc people may seek to adapt the word to their particular views.   
   But what is 'true meaning' of 'freedom', what it had evolved from,   
   is somewhat interesting in itself.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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