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   Oleg Smirnov to All   
   Re: Improvisations on the meaning of "Fr   
   16 Feb 22 21:45:21   
   
   XPost: aus.politics, can.politics, us.politics   
   From: os333@netc.eu   
      
   Arindam Banerjee,   
      
      
   >> The fact is, the very original meaning of 'freedom' included the   
   >> freedoms to discriminate and abuse some "disenfranchised" others.   
   >> The word 'freedom' developed its meaning in contrasting free people   
   >> with unfree people. If one excludes the latter from the context,   
   >> then it's no longer clear what 'freedom' really means.   
   >   
   > Freedom means whether one is free to MOVE or not.   
   > Serfs were not free, unlike gypsies, birds, worms, etc.   
   > On the other hand, one is tied down by the chains of office.   
   > The officebearer is not free either.   
   > Nor are those traditionally married.   
   >   
   > Hooliganism is freedom of a sort.   
      
   Opportunity to move does not seem the only component of freedom.   
   And the office-related issues are linked with social institutions.   
   At the early time, when the idea of freedom was first expressed in   
   language, there were no developed institutions, there were clans,   
   mostly based on kinship, with certain mores and customs.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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