XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
      Note: G.Mannarino urges everyone to take their money out of the banks   
            right now. I have never seen G.M. so upset as in the last week   
   	 or two or so, despite having followed him somewhat for years.   
      
      Note: The severe autists on dan18.com have warned: all Jews should   
            return to Israel *before the banks fail*. We see another sharp   
   	 rise in hatred against Jewish people thanks to the current war   
   	 situation, right ? I wonder if the situation will be created so   
   	 that the masses will start blaming Jewish people again for   
   	 everything, or even for starting World War 3. How do you buy a   
   	 plane ticket by the way, if your money doesn't exist anymore,   
   	 hidden in a bank which seems permanently closed. Just   
   	 speculating. Remember the Jews who stayed in Germany, the "home   
   	 away from home", because they couldn't believe how bad it was   
   	 going to get ?   
      
   	 Trump has ratified torture in the USA. Take stock of where you   
   	 are. You live in a Fascist Empire if you live in the USA. This   
   	 cannot be save for good people. Secondly, with all the Jews   
   	 living in Brooklyn New York, how does that work during a nuclear   
   	 war, in which NYC may well be a target.  Your God will protect   
   	 you, while you have broken the Torah ?  You cannot admit you   
   	 have broken the Torah, ah ok, I guess that makes you safe   
   	 then ? Obviously not. It seems to me there are enough reasons   
   	 to get out of the USA, and maybe it really is time to go to   
   	 Israel, if you want to do the Torah at least, which implies:   
   	 distribute the holy land to all and stop with the prosbul,   
   	 stop the baseless hatred which is embodied in the prosbul and   
   	 elevated to law by Rabbinical Judaism (!).   
      
   Someone wrote the rethorical question: "imagine what would happen if the   
   banks failed".   
      
   Okay, but can you imagine what it would cause if the banks get bailed   
   out ? The mess should never have been allowed, State debt is insane   
   if not evil, and banks should never have been allowed to become this   
   big. Mistake should have been accepted and price been paid let's say   
   in 2008. As soon as they failed, that was the foot in the door to deal   
   with those sick people. If that had caused a 10 year depression and the   
   need for a new currency, it doesn't matter. It takes what it takes to   
   get back to any sort of working economy.   
      
   It takes what it takes. Establish an emergency fund for the poor, open up   
   the food kitchens, create a housing and rent fund, go easy on the people   
   and nationalize a new Pension system, keep the hospitals working one way   
   or the other. To hell with the super rich and those parasites, who caused   
   it all, to hell with them. Their cashbook is completely irrevelant because   
   they got too much already. They can take care of themselves already.   
      
   You know this is exactly the problem: child politicians. Children who   
   don't dare to cut the knot when they have to. It is the people their own   
   fault though. They are probably never going to accept serious policies   
   because they don't care about the long term. It is always going to be   
   some psycho winning the elections, promising heaven for all in 1 day. I   
   guess the masses are going to get what they asked for. The fix was in   
   when the Government issued debt when they didn't need to. The people   
   should have reacted with "we do not want to put our problems on the next   
   generations". They should have shown a level of adult politics, but they   
   couldn't do it. It was all "me me me !" non stop, short term gains, to   
   hell with the future. I guess that hell is coming around the corner soon.   
      
   To answer my own question, what is going to happen if you bail out   
   the banks ? It means these sick people are going to own the Treasury,   
   the money system, everything. It rewards them. They perfectly well knew   
   what they where doing. They are bankers, they understand everything about   
   debt. You reward them, so they will do it again, and that's what they are   
   doing now. They will go on until they are forced to a stop. I don't mean   
   forced by an implosion, that's all a calculated part of where this is   
   going. I mean stopped by jail time. The banks fail ? Perfect ! Open the   
   investigations, make room in the prisons for the criminal bankers, issue   
   emergency economic policies for the poor, order a group to investigate   
   curing the currency or even making a new one. Whatever it takes.   
      
   If you don't do this, you leave the power in the hands of the worst   
   people in the world. They are using all that money and power to establish   
   their global tyranny, and that is not to be taken lightly. These people   
   have long been selected for in the Capitalist market and the criminal   
   underworld to get where they are. They are proven to be cunning and evil   
   enough to get where they are, and they are therefore more equipped than   
   most to take that next step. These people are dangerous, evil and cunning;   
   they are high end organized crime, and worse if there is a word for it.   
      
   Sorry to belabor the point. Have a nice day. I have been taken my money   
   out ever since 2008 by the way, and just never stopped converting it   
   into useful goods.   
      
   P.S. What is useful restructering (IMHO): first of all, a special group   
   takes charge of failed bank, people who can in the immediate term take   
   care of the worst problems which real people might face who have   
   accounts in that bank. Not (super) rich people whining about their   
   excessive savings and greed, but real people with businesses and lives,   
   jobs, families, serious issues in their lives.   
      
   It may be useful to keep the culprits, the psycho criminal banking   
   elite class, in a form of communication with this group, if there are   
   any issues of understanding.  There may be a lot going on which is not   
   legal, and it may also all be quite complicated. While it is not clear   
   if the psychos will work with the (finally somewhat useful) Government   
   to actually provide the necessary insights, the threat of legal action   
   for their liabilities them might help. Of course it is not even clear if   
   they are yet guilty of anything, since this requires a court case.   
   Working well with the Government will make them look better in a court case.   
      
   The banks then need to basically be destroyed, but slowly to avoid   
   causing more pain than necessary. Destroyed and broken up into many   
   small banks. They should never have been allowed to become as big as   
   they are. New law is needed against these businesses which are far too   
   large.   
      
   I think it is probably wise to make a law where the size of businesses   
   (which you can calculate using different metrics, such as Capital,   
   employees, etc) at first will be at the biggest now existing size, but   
   then it automatically steps down. Slowly it squeezes the businesses   
      
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