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   From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
   Someone noted that the current wars in the Middle East have been planned   
   for years, and decried how we can see it happening on our phones.   
      
   Years ago I made a computer program with which people could vote in a self   
   verified manner. It was published internationally in Linux Magazine. My   
   goal was also that people could vote for peace, that they would have a   
   functioning way to intervene against our evil ruling classes on a short   
   notice, which is otherwise not possible in a 4 year election cycle.   
      
   Instead people used their phones to make selfies, and they absorb the   
   local propaganda as fact, which is a vote for war because of the sick   
   nature of our ruling classes. I have nothing against making selfies or   
   engaging in all kinds of diversions, to have fun, however there needs   
   to be a sufficient amount of pressure and interest in general politics,   
   because you absolutely cannot leave politicians, super rich psychopaths   
   and an assortment of organized criminals to their own devices, and expect   
   things to work out in the long term.   
      
   If you have a weak democracy and a dysfunctional economy, Plutocracy   
   is a certain result, and with that the worst of the worst are coming to   
   power. The system selects in the beginning for hard work, creativity and   
   competence, as well as a client friendly attitude. All positive things,   
   if you set an economy like we have back to square one. Square one, what   
   exactly is that ? How many people even ask that question if they read   
   this ? I would posit that _square one_ is literally, everyone has one   
   square of the land, or if you prefer: everyone who wants a square could   
   get one, either for free or affordable amount of money. This _square   
   one_ situation did happen, after the Dutch rebellion against Spain and   
   the overthrow of the Monasteries and Catholicism. The land which was   
   conquered from the parasites was given relatively cheap to whomever   
   would buy. This matters because the kind of economy which was born in   
   the Netherlands, inspired on ancient Rome and probably elsewhere, is now   
   the norm everywhere. *It does not work.* It works for a while, but then   
   ownership starts to centralize. The poor get poorer, the rich get richer.   
      
   The system starts selecting for a caricature of how it originally   
   may have started (which is in reality also far from ideal, because   
   you had to deal with a large load of bad people with too much money   
   already). American also had a form of _square one,_ because the land was   
   free after conquering it from the Indians. Perhaps you could say something   
   like this: the hard work which paid off in the beginning of this system,   
   where it is just you, the land and the market, then became the ability to   
   let others do the hard work for you - as the few assembled more and more   
   land and hired more and more people. The positive creativity to solve   
   immediate real problems of production, became the creativity to squeeze   
   more productivity out of the people. The competence and confidence in   
   the ability to do a good job, morphs into the audacity to go against the   
   interests of the employees if there is more profit to be made that way,   
   and then the outright brutality to be more or less on a war footing   
   with the dispossessed, the landless, the desperate, the serfs. The   
   friendly attitude to the costumer of the beginning, changes into an   
   understanding of how to manipulate the common man with advertisements,   
   lies and propaganda. After this we might imagine an even worse stage in   
   the development of a diabolical ruling class: no longer just manipulating   
   their own holdings, employees and costumers, but they could step up on   
   the grand stage, the political stage of society, engaging in all forms   
   of treachery. Not just the usual bribery and murder, but even to create   
   the events they might need to then lie about. The position "If only such   
   and so would have done this and that, then we could exploit that in our   
   newspapers" can become "If they don't do it, then we will either entire   
   or force them into it, or do it ourselves wearing their clothes." At this   
   level, society has devolved into having a criminal Government, as well   
   as being burdened with many very large businesses which are run by bad   
   people. This is not the end of the development, but more or less where we   
   are now. I'll leave the rest to the imagination: some sort of dystopian   
   Tyrannical nightmare. First with a smiling Tyrant, and eventually not   
   even that. This is the natural development of a Capitalist economy -   
   as far as I can see, where land is sold _in perpetuity,_ as if it is a   
   commodity, a product of human work, which it is not.   
      
   Technology is merely a tool, it depends on how you use it what you get   
   out of it. Humanity chose not to care for each other, not to listen to   
   each other. It is justice that this humanity will be ruled by a ruling   
   class who does not care about people, and does not listen to you. They   
   care about being perceived as caring, until they no longer need to. This   
   whole war we see now is made up. They probably need war because of the   
   National Debt scam imploding on itself, leading to hyper inflation,   
   leading to social unrest & Revolutions. This is why they want people to   
   kill each other.   
      
   it will get worse, and eventually I think it will become a full out   
   nuclear war, which also has depopulation as one of its objectives. While   
   that may be hard to believe, it is true that there are an extreme amount   
   of people on Earth, and it may be worth noting how Plato already wrote   
   about an ancient Oligarch before _his_ time, who wanted to depopulate   
   the poor (if I recall correctly).   
      
   The enemy will then try to use the crisis to worsen their grip on   
   power. If the humans remain as politically absent as they now want to   
   be, this evil plan could succeed. There is still a little hope however,   
   because hardship changes people. The lack of involvement of people in   
   their own political / ideological beliefs is so bad, that this could add   
   decades of suffering and death to a problem which might otherwise have   
   been resolved in years. It is still probably the best chance that after   
   this war, humanity will choose to learn the wrong lessons ("humanity   
   is violent and therefore so should we, nothing can be done about it,   
   maybe we didn't make the Empire big enough yet, ...") and continues to   
   make the same mistakes. Sooner or later, the potential for human self   
   extinction seems to start looming large, or worse.   
      
   It is theoretically possible for Capitalism to stay healthy, however   
   this requires a keen interest in the people to decide, buy and give   
   things away not just based on their own selfish needs, but with the   
   greater wellbeing of everyone in mind. If a so enlightened attitude   
   pervades a people, the land ownership might never centralize because   
      
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