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   Jos Boersema to All   
   Why USA wants Russia to keep winning, to   
   26 Sep 24 13:40:46   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
   title: 💥Desperate Days In Vuhledar🎖 The Russians Finalize Kurakhove   
           Operation⚔️ Military Summary 2024.09.25   
   link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZ9FSJTis8   
   source: Military Summary   
      
     Reply:   
      
   The war is going perfect for the US ruling class. The Kursk offensive   
   seems to have been a useful success in dissipating Ukranian troops and   
   resources. War is like cooking. You don't want it undercooked, and you   
   don't want it black on the outside and raw on the inside. They want you   
   nice and crisp all around, with a well cooked brain. It probably has a lot   
   to do with the pace of the economic collapse / centralization, the debt &   
   the money printing. It also has to do with the speed of the political   
   sphere, the creation of Fascism everywhere, to deal with any unruly   
   peasants and laborers who don't like an increasingly hopeless economy.   
      
   USA needs Ukraine to keep loosing at the right pace, and then one by one   
   the European Vassals can be thrown into the war. I think the USA probably   
   also wants the USA to be attacked directly and at least nuke several   
   large cities. This situation will create a nice crisis, while getting   
   rid of excess population, which can be used for "all together now". It   
   will put the fear in the people, like what else ? Obama is the perfect   
   candidate to then herald in a new era of Tyranny disguised as Peace,   
   since he started this World War 3 in 2014 Kiev with his hate filled Nazis.   
      
   Job done. If you want to advance in the new system, get your brain   
   implants at Elon Musk his punching machines for free. Perhaps they   
   will let you work on the robotic weapons patrolling the streets, or   
   the all consuming surveilance systems. Those are sensitive jobs, so   
   it makes every sense in the world that you will be fitted with a kill   
   switch, no ? (/sarcasm) This is a possible future you are creating for   
   yourselves. Criminals act as they always do, it makes them predictable. To   
   maximize their power, this would be one possible and I think likely   
   strategy to do it.   
      
   This view has consistently been able to explain & predict the events   
   going on, make sense out of them. This is why I expected there would   
   not be any peace in Donbass between 2015 and on to 2022 when it blew   
   up rather than died out. You don't understand the deeper strategy, if   
   you think Ukraine and Russia will make peace. If they make peace, they   
   are probably disobaying their American orders to escalate, and the USA   
   probably has ways to prevent them doing that. This is why you see this   
   escalation around Israel as well, and why they added China to Russia as   
   a block against USA  and its European captured Nations, because Russia   
   is quite outnumbered by USA & its Tribute paying Vassals. The war needs   
   to be big enough, and depopulate enough, to have a crisis to exploit.   
      
   You think there is no reason for this, that this is random ? Revolutions   
   have been happening regularly in history. It would be foolish to attempt   
   a hard Tyranny over the western world, just like that, without a war to   
   motivate the Tyrannical security forces to torture/kill their own people,   
   and to keep the masses afraid and in line. 1917 Germany saw a Revolution,   
   right after the 1st world war, but that was something that was brewing   
   even before in a big way, and I think only postponed by that war. The   
   Nazis then had a strategy of war and Tyranny, which dealt a severe blow   
   to organized labor, despite the economy going badly. Without these major   
   shocks of war, there is little or nothing to stop the population from   
   overthrowing their criminal ruling class, and hang them by the thousands.   
      
   It is a war of (super) rich (criminals), against humanity. Plans   
   and mechanisms like this, also provide internal structure to these   
   criminals. It gives them a temporary alliance to work together and recruit   
   lower level people. This is how this world seems to work. Hence I can   
   predict for you already, as I did well before 2014 already that there   
   would be war with Russia (and I always already suggested it would start   
   between 2018-2023 but that was just a feeling): there is not going to be a   
   peace between Ukraine & Russia, and neither in the Middle East. The goal   
   is a full out global war. The reason is that the ruling class is at that   
   point, they have the mechanism in place to keep centralizing the economy,   
   while destroying the currency. It is like a debt time bomb, that they have   
   to deal with. They cannot just stop being evil and get a job, you know   
   ? They want to be criminals, and thus this type of thing is what they do.   
      
   Notice though: while these are likely their (ideal) plans, that doesn't   
   mean it will succeed for them. It can start failing or go different, and   
   then they will have to adapt. Vassals become rebels, populations behave   
   differently than expected, things go better or worse than expected,   
   it rains or the wind blows. It isn't set in stone, but it is just the   
   direction they are pushing in, and a direction they will continue to push   
   in if they can get their way. That is what I am saying. I don't say:   
   this will happen, I just say: this is likely what they want, why they   
   are doing it. They are succesful, because people don't think and don't   
   care, but get manipulated by their mass media to follow these orders,   
   which they don't even understand is orders to them. An order to kill for   
   example, can come in the form of a sad story about a child dying, while   
   leaving out what really was happening overall. They are excellent in the   
   art of lying, the US ruling class is, especially also to their own people.   
      
    *   
      
   End of comment. This source: Military Summary It seems to be a good   
   channel with frequent updates on the war.   
      
    *   
      
   Relevance SCJ: with USA in full out support of the Zionist rebel state   
   (an anti-Jewish State, an anti-real-Torah State), and Russia also being   
   active in the Middle East and again on the other side of the USA, the   
   level of war coming out of Russia against the USA which is worsening in   
   Europe, may spill over into a worsening on the front of Israel from the   
   side of Russia. It is the same high command, after all (it might   
   be the same one person: Putin with his advisors). It is conceivable that   
   Russia could retaliate in Israel, for hits it receives from Ukraine,   
   because it faces the same power behind both: the USA. Ukraine & the   
   Zionist State are both proxies for the USA, Vassals, client States.   
      
   Secondly, a world war is also of interest to the Jewish people, who also   
   live in large numbers in the USA. If you think you are safe from nuke   
   war in the USA, you may be miscalculating. If you think the USA ruling   
   criminals will keep you as safe as they can from a Russian nuclear   
      
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