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   =?UTF-8?B?w5ZyZMO2Zw==?= to Santiago Rojas   
   Re: Hi everyone!   
   26 Jan 25 08:19:32   
   
   From: ordog@your.service.biz   
      
   Santiago Rojas wrote:   
      
   > Hey there! I'm new to Usenet and I'm a socialist. Any thoughts on Titoist   
   > self-management?   
   >   
   This had clearly not delivered to his country what he had hoped for.   
      
   Having said that, the failure of implementing socialism as promised to   
   the people instead of a wide range of differing versions of   
   authoritarian state capitalism has to be viewed with the political   
   climate of the Cold War era international super power rat race chaos in   
   mind.   
      
   I am afraid, socialists and communists alike must clearly realise that   
   it is time to go back to the Marxist roots and rethink of how to   
   progress towards achieving the goals of an egalitarian classless society   
   that is from the bottom up democratic and is in harmony with resources   
   and ecology of our planet. Let us never forget the dialectic nature of   
   human societies.   
      
   Please do not confuse ourselves about concocted oxymoron concepts like   
   "communist command economy" as it is everything but communist in its   
   nature. I dare say, that even Stalin knew that what he was doing was   
   neither socialist nor communist.   
      
   I think tackling democracy at the workplace must be a priority for both   
   socialists and communists. The role of the state should never be take   
   over the role of some sort of capitalist corporate leadership, instead   
   it should only coordinate/facilitate/guide the interactions amongst the   
   different production and service sector branches of the economy.   
      
   I recommend that you Google "Democracy at the Workplace" and the work of   
   Professor Richard Wolff as you will get a lot better explanation from   
   him than from me.   
      
   BTW I am a communist with a very open mind.   
      
   Good luck with your endeavours.   
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