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   Santiago Rojas to All   
   Re: Long live Titoism! Ahem! No so fast!   
   18 Sep 25 18:49:50   
   
   From: santyrojasprieto9@yahoo.com   
      
   I know he hated the USSR, but it was all thanks to Stalin. Stalin took   
   advantage of Lenin's sickness and death to make the Soviet Union bow to him,   
   not to his people. And then he tried to make Yugoslavia bow to him, just   
   like most of Eastern Europe, and Tito fearlessly said NO.   
   You're totally right. Titoism is the model of the future - a system where   
   the workers make business and they compete in a market. Self-management   
   socialism allows cooperatives to produce exactly what's needed, which avoids   
   the shortages/excess of Stalinist central planning.   
      
   Slava Jugoslavija!   
      
   "????????"  escribió en el mensaje   
   news:10ai2fu$5qk6$1@dont-email.me...   
   > Santiago Rojas wrote:   
   >   
   >> The socialist model of the future is based on:   
   >>   
   >> * Lenin (1922-1924): The real president of the USSR. All power to the   
   >> soviets!   
   >> * Josip Broz Tito (1950-1989): Self-management, no bowing down.   
   >> * Salvador Allende (1970-1973): Democratic socialism, Chilean path, Latin   
   >> American sovereignty, nobody's backyard!   
   >>   
   >> Long live socialism!!   
   >>   
   >> ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > Hmmm. Tito really-really did not get on well with the USSR and its allies.   
   > Have you ever wondered why that was the case???   
   >   
   > But to his credit he has managed to unite the Mediterranean Slavic people   
   > for the duration of his life.   
   > Pity this unity did not last after his passing.   
   >   
   > In the current very nasty environment created by the resurgent far-right   
   > and unapologetic extreme capitalist fascism across the western countries   
   > socialism has to take a step back and take a hard look at its own   
   > strategic mistakes during the past 100 years and learn from them.   
   >   
   > As it has been previously concluded by a number of great socialist   
   > thinkers, capitalism won't just simply go away quietly before it has   
   > exhausted all possible routes of its continuing survival. This should give   
   > us the time to rethink how to progress onwards. My personal take on this   
   > is to concentrate on models of from the ground up organised decentralised   
   > democracy. The top down method of leading people towards socialism has   
   > resulted in failure after failure.   
   >   
   >   
      
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