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   Jos Boersema to All   
   Global nuke war in 3 years during Trump    
   11 Jan 26 15:05:29   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
   The global nuke war will probably happen within 3 years, because that   
   is how long Trump still has the mandate¹. While they may be able to put   
   someone in who is just as wild and evil as Trump (no problem at all I   
   guess), he does seem to be the ideal candidate for this project, does   
   he not ? Whether that will happen or not, world war 3 is a bipartisan US   
   project, started by Obama (the Obama Nazi coup of 2014, Kiev) & carried   
   further by Trump (the likely murderer of elected President Alexandr   
   Zacharchenko, RIP). This war "solves" the debt problem, just like World   
   War 2 "solved" the debt problem in Germany (crises 1924-1929). USA is   
   poking the Russian bear once more, but this time all sides have nukes   
   who can hit anywhere within the USA. A war like this is IMHO very likely   
   to happen, it is basically an historical certainty. Does this world   
   look like one who has found eternal peace ? If not, then the war will   
   happen. Keep in mind how the US ruling class was financing and arming   
   the early Nazis, and the people who did it where then elected to the US   
   Presidency (!). USA was not resquing anyone from the Nazis, they _where   
   the Nazis._ It is a common war strategy, to bring your targets into war   
   with each other first. If you don't see it, then I think you are living   
   in a fantasy planet of your own design, and there are many historical   
   contradictions and reports which you are ignoring.   
      
   There are many naive people who refuse to see the reality of this coming   
   nuke war. They just wish to deny it. They are childish enough to think   
   the bosses in power will be worried for their own survival, even though   
   dying in war has always been a risk, not in the least for the Kings on   
   both sides (high value targets). Keep in mind that they could also die   
   from internal Revolution, caused by their policies. A nuke on a city   
   is a more efficient method for what the USA was already quite fond of,   
   which is the fire bombing of cities such as Dresden Germany. Firebombing   
   a city is itself again a more efficient way of killing most/all people   
   by hand and burning it down, which has been practiced by humanity   
   throughout history. The morality is the same, the result is the same. A   
   nuke is merely a more efficient way, an automation of the process just   
   like technology automates and makes easier many other things. A global   
   nuke war is not going to be an exception, it is in line with human   
   behavior. If you think nukes will never be used in war seriously, then   
   to be congruent with yourself you are also believing how guns and cars   
   are not being used for war either ? Perhaps you should admit to yourself   
   that you are living in so-called lalaland.   
      
   I think you should realize that this is more or less the future. With   
   wars, the population will be disciplined and the army will be motivated,   
   also to shoot and kill their own people who do not follow orders, who   
   become traitors in their eyes, no matter how many laws they themselves   
   are breaking. Meanwhile, the Americans seem to mostly be busy with men   
   or woman who think they are the other gender, with gays and lesbians,   
   and their obsession with slavery and racism. How do these topics stack   
   up against the monstrous debt, the divide between rich & poor, the evil   
   USA global Empire and all the evil wars it has started and is still   
   starting, and a future in which the USA could suffer a multitude of its   
   major cities nuked out of existence, together with a criminal Government   
   who dispenses with talking and arguing alltogether, but resorts to what   
   they truly believe in: violence. USA is rough, uncivilized, and even its   
   higher up politicians (never mind the worst of them, which is Trump)   
   do not seem to have the discipline to not use F-words in official and   
   sensitive statements to the public.   
      
   Humanity is a chaotic dull witted mess, headed for self destruction.   
      
   P.S.   
      
   There are several issues which seem to dictate that the nuke war is   
   near. The World War 2 generation is essentially expired, they can no   
   longer warn enough people that it is all happening again (that Trump is   
   Fascism and war). There have now been several generations in the west,   
   who have not seen a lot of war. Especially the Americans have not suffered   
   war for a long time. Subjecting a people to war makes them more fearful   
   and disciplined, easier to rule by fear. The debt has taken on monstrous   
   proportions. The ruling class seems to quickly absorb the remaniing   
   free real businesses not owned by them, which gives them so much power   
   that they may be able to get away with policies that they otherwise   
   may not have been able to get away with so easily. The plurality of the   
   ruling class is low, it is becoming more and more narrow, criminal and   
   organized. There are constantly fewer people with the clout, capital and   
   capacity to create an alternative from a position of financial freedom.   
      
   The biosphere is deteriorating quite quickly, and the ruling class does   
   not need a world population this large. The technology is becoming so   
   powerful, that it seems likely that the ruling class already has the means   
   to police the public with the use of machines, which potentially makes   
   the Tyranny more extreme because machines have no conscience whatsoever,   
   and machines will likely become more efficient at war than humans. Hence   
   if the ruling class can suppress humanity generally for a decade or two   
   using more or less the old styles of Tyranny, they have a lot of time   
   to work on a more automated variety of Tyranny (surveilance & compliance).   
      
   Imagine it is the year 2080 and a worst case scenario like this has   
   unfolded, or perhaps only in USA it did. Now look back on gay pride   
   parades, how people devoted their lives to such an issue. Do you see the   
   shame ? You fell for an enemy system with this. They merely copied the   
   Hitler model, which starts with the roaring twenties (I guess), a period   
   of decadence and decay for a certain amount of people, which then becomes   
   the _raison d'être_ (reason to exist) for the Fascists. You gay parade   
   and over the top antifa people with your _fascist tactics and violence,   
   your rude mouth_ you have created the stepping stone for the Fascists,   
   while pretending to be against them. (I said that already decades ago,   
   when you still could have stopped with your madness and bad tactics.)   
      
   It won't happen ?! It is too extreme ? Can't be ? Exactly the same as   
   what people told themselves before World War 2, including the Jewish   
   people inside of Germany. I admit that this picture looks quite grim, and   
   hopefully (but unlikely) it will not happen. However as the Dutch saying   
      
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