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|    Jos Boersema to All    |
|    USA Tyranny is being established. Will a    |
|    26 Jan 26 15:09:01    |
      XPost: soc.culture.jewish       From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl              1. USA Tyranny is being established       2. Will an economic boycott work ?                     1. USA Tyranny is being established now        ------------------------------------              [Someone wrote here¹...]               Quote:               Minnesota is a testbed for this government to determine how much        tyranny Americans will put up with.               End quote.              Reply ...              Seeing things happening from the Netherlands, at this point it seems to       me the Americans have folded and given up to the Tyranny. It seems to       me that if you keep going this way, you will be broken and never get       back up as a people. Basically, nothing is getting done, there is no       resistance. I saw people jump up and down on the sidewalk, making sounds,       and that was it. I also saw youth mobs doing petty violence, which only       makes it worse. Perhaps you should take this as a warning. There is the       famous saying about the frog, which is often repeated when Tyranny comes:       the frog doesn't notice it when it gets boiled slowly.              I don't want to demoralize you all, but I think you already kneeled for       your Dictator King Trump, begging him to spare your lives in return for       your fielty and servitude, forever. You gave up, much easier than the       Germans. The proud and supposedly free Americans, who said they would       fight every tyrant. What did they do when it came ? Nothing more than some       of them marched a bit on the street, and that was it. Not long after, the       thugs where killing people again in the streets, not a problem for them.              Not true ? Then I guess we will be seeing something serious soon, right ?              End reply.                     2. Will an economic boycott work ?        -------------------------------              Someone responded to this with, quote:               I think an economic boycott would be effective              End quote.              Reply ...              Doing something is better than nothing, but I do not believe it will       either be effective or enough, sorry. For one thing, it increases the       anger of the Fascist base, and gives the Fascist leaders another excuse       to shill for the Plutocracy and blame the boycott for economic problems       of said base, fueling more anger. Fundamentally, to not buy something /       buy something else, it is not such a powerful method. It may be powerful       against a business if done broadly enough, but the US Tyranny comes from       the entire Plutocracy of the USA, its (bribed) politicians and the mass       media. It is not just one company which you could potentially hurt badly       with a boycott.              Example: how do you boycott Bill Gates (which should have done half a       century ago world wide already, for its monopoly and bad quality), when       he apparently owns half the agricultural land in the USA. You'd think       by not buying their product you could hurt this Oligarch, but are you       really ? While it could do _something_ and it's a good thing to do anyway,       I just don't think it is going to be enough. You are dealing with State       power here, and also armed thugs in the street murdering people. Buying       a different chocolate bar in the nearby grocery store is not going to       fix that, right ?              Have a good day, thanks for your reply.              End reply ...              P.S. Perhaps I could have added that it may be good for the woman to       engage in the boycott, since it seems strange to ask woman to engage in       any sort of potentilly combative environment, although with dedication       and sufficient training and modern weapons they can probably be quite       effective.              The Fascist brown shirts of ICE seem to be behaving like a mob. They do       not seem to usually form coordinated lines, or operate in efficient       groups with commanders over them. They seem to hang around in loose       disorganized fashion, each how they feel like in the moment, and when       something seems to happen somewhere they flock to it as if they are all       doing whatever they feel like in the moment - which is probably exactly       how they are operating.              They behave like untrained people, a mob, quite similar to how one would       expect untrained civilians to operate, if they are unsure of any sort of       command structure, and/or not used to following orders, not sworn in to       following orders either, and not being guided effectively by people who       can give competent orders. They swarm, act wild, each as they see fit.              I suspect that this means they are quite an ineffective force, which can       be overcome relatively easily by a trained group of sufficient size, who       does not lack these qualities. It takes time to develop such a group,       which is the time a lot of people have wasted over the last years and       decades. Well, what can I say now: told you so ?              *              What else will soon become "told you so" ? Nuclear global war, because       they are that crazy, even if you can't believe it. OF course I also do       not know that for certain. However, the historical pattern indicates       that it will be used, and just because the world might literally die out       doesn't mean the criminals don't fancy doing it, and taking their       chances. Global population reduction, and it is a defense against       Revolutions who might in the end catch up with them. They also have a       lot of bunkers, where they can likely survive for decades if it all       works as expected (which it might not). It should also be noted that the       ruling criminals are extremely mobile with their jets. They can go to       the southern hemisphere, after organizing things in such a way that it       will mostly be the north nuking each other, etc. Even if it doesn't       happen, the risk is so great that you should probably assume that it       will happen as a certainty. This may cause people to act sufficiently to       stop it, or at least more might survive it.              Will they listen now ? Of course not, they never listen than until they       are walking around hungering outside in sufficient numbers. Most people       care about nothing, so long as they are fed well. You see it in the USA:       no resistance to the Tyranny at this point. They don't care. It wasn't       them who was shot. It's not enough if 10% cares, unless they really want       to act in a strong way.              The ruling class is insane, and probably thrilled by all the new       technologies they now have, which they think allows them to get away       with things that where never before possible. They probably tell       themselves that this is the end, and they will now be able to establish       a permanent hell on Earth rule by them, to live as Kings over the slaves       forever. If they need to kill 6 Billion people for it, that's not a       price to pay for them. That is a party they are going to enjoy, or so       they think. This is the kind of people with probably most of the       strategic power in this world - because the people don't think. The       enormous vacuum the mindlessness of the people creates, they can fill       it with their evil.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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