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   Jos Boersema to All   
   USA Tyranny is being established. Will a   
   26 Jan 26 15:09:01   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.jewish   
   From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
   1. USA Tyranny is being established   
   2. Will an economic boycott work ?   
      
      
   1. USA Tyranny is being established now   
      ------------------------------------   
      
   [Someone wrote here¹...]   
      
    Quote:   
      
     Minnesota is a testbed for this government to determine how much   
     tyranny Americans will put up with.   
      
    End quote.   
      
   Reply ...   
      
   Seeing things happening from the Netherlands, at this point it seems to   
   me the Americans have folded and given up to the Tyranny. It seems to   
   me that if you keep going this way, you will be broken and never get   
   back up as a people. Basically, nothing is getting done, there is no   
   resistance. I saw people jump up and down on the sidewalk, making sounds,   
   and that was it. I also saw youth mobs doing petty violence, which only   
   makes it worse. Perhaps you should take this as a warning. There is the   
   famous saying about the frog, which is often repeated when Tyranny comes:   
   the frog doesn't notice it when it gets boiled slowly.   
      
   I don't want to demoralize you all, but I think you already kneeled for   
   your Dictator King Trump, begging him to spare your lives in return for   
   your fielty and servitude, forever. You gave up, much easier than the   
   Germans. The proud and supposedly free Americans, who said they would   
   fight every tyrant. What did they do when it came ? Nothing more than some   
   of them marched a bit on the street, and that was it. Not long after, the   
   thugs where killing people again in the streets, not a problem for them.   
      
   Not true ? Then I guess we will be seeing something serious soon, right ?   
      
   End reply.   
      
      
   2. Will an economic boycott work ?   
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   Someone responded to this with, quote:   
      
     I think an economic boycott would be effective   
      
   End quote.   
      
   Reply ...   
      
   Doing something is better than nothing, but I do not believe it will   
   either be effective or enough, sorry. For one thing, it increases the   
   anger of the Fascist base, and gives the Fascist leaders another excuse   
   to shill for the Plutocracy and blame the boycott for economic problems   
   of said base, fueling more anger. Fundamentally, to not buy something /   
   buy something else, it is not such a powerful method. It may be powerful   
   against a business if done broadly enough, but the US Tyranny comes from   
   the entire Plutocracy of the USA, its (bribed) politicians and the mass   
   media. It is not just one company which you could potentially hurt badly   
   with a boycott.   
      
   Example: how do you boycott Bill Gates (which should have done half a   
   century ago world wide already, for its monopoly and bad quality), when   
   he apparently owns half the agricultural land in the USA. You'd think   
   by not buying their product you could hurt this Oligarch, but are you   
   really ? While it could do _something_ and it's a good thing to do anyway,   
   I just don't think it is going to be enough. You are dealing with State   
   power here, and also armed thugs in the street murdering people. Buying   
   a different chocolate bar in the nearby grocery store is not going to   
   fix that, right ?   
      
   Have a good day, thanks for your reply.   
      
   End reply ...   
      
   P.S. Perhaps I could have added that it may be good for the woman to   
   engage in the boycott, since it seems strange to ask woman to engage in   
   any sort of potentilly combative environment, although with dedication   
   and sufficient training and modern weapons they can probably be quite   
   effective.   
      
   The Fascist brown shirts of ICE seem to be behaving like a mob. They do   
   not seem to usually form coordinated lines, or operate in efficient   
   groups with commanders over them. They seem to hang around in loose   
   disorganized fashion, each how they feel like in the moment, and when   
   something seems to happen somewhere they flock to it as if they are all   
   doing whatever they feel like in the moment - which is probably exactly   
   how they are operating.   
      
   They behave like untrained people, a mob, quite similar to how one would   
   expect untrained civilians to operate, if they are unsure of any sort of   
   command structure, and/or not used to following orders, not sworn in to   
   following orders either, and not being guided effectively by people who   
   can give competent orders. They swarm, act wild, each as they see fit.   
      
   I suspect that this means they are quite an ineffective force, which can   
   be overcome relatively easily by a trained group of sufficient size, who   
   does not lack these qualities. It takes time to develop such a group,   
   which is the time a lot of people have wasted over the last years and   
   decades. Well, what can I say now: told you so ?   
      
   *   
      
   What else will soon become "told you so" ? Nuclear global war, because   
   they are that crazy, even if you can't believe it. OF course I also do   
   not know that for certain. However, the historical pattern indicates   
   that it will be used, and just because the world might literally die out   
   doesn't mean the criminals don't fancy doing it, and taking their   
   chances. Global population reduction, and it is a defense against   
   Revolutions who might in the end catch up with them. They also have a   
   lot of bunkers, where they can likely survive for decades if it all   
   works as expected (which it might not). It should also be noted that the   
   ruling criminals are extremely mobile with their jets. They can go to   
   the southern hemisphere, after organizing things in such a way that it   
   will mostly be the north nuking each other, etc. Even if it doesn't   
   happen, the risk is so great that you should probably assume that it   
   will happen as a certainty. This may cause people to act sufficiently to   
   stop it, or at least more might survive it.   
      
   Will they listen now ? Of course not, they never listen than until they   
   are walking around hungering outside in sufficient numbers. Most people   
   care about nothing, so long as they are fed well. You see it in the USA:   
   no resistance to the Tyranny at this point. They don't care. It wasn't   
   them who was shot. It's not enough if 10% cares, unless they really want   
   to act in a strong way.   
      
   The ruling class is insane, and probably thrilled by all the new   
   technologies they now have, which they think allows them to get away   
   with things that where never before possible. They probably tell   
   themselves that this is the end, and they will now be able to establish   
   a permanent hell on Earth rule by them, to live as Kings over the slaves   
   forever. If they need to kill 6 Billion people for it, that's not a   
   price to pay for them. That is a party they are going to enjoy, or so   
   they think. This is the kind of people with probably most of the   
   strategic power in this world - because the people don't think. The   
   enormous vacuum the mindlessness of the people creates, they can fill   
   it with their evil.   
      
      
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