From: Josjoha@market.socialism.nl   
      
   Proponents of 'Basic income' think that it will work to just give   
   everyone a living wage. EVery problem that this system may have, they   
   counter with the idea that people will just keep working for extra   
   money.   
      
   One of the things they seem to neglect, is that they couldn't even make   
   this work for the business they have been working for. They couldn't   
   even manage to set up something like a Basic Income with incomparably   
   fewer people than the entire State of a Nation. If they could not bring   
   their company owners/bosses to heel, then what makes them believe they   
   can do just that when it becomes incomparably harder to do on the   
   National level ?   
      
   For a business, they wouldn't even have needed to reform an existing   
   business, because they could just resolve to start a new one, and make   
   sure the profits are shared equally, or at least that they had a say in   
   it.   
      
   If they had done this, first of all there wouldn't be any problem left   
   to solve (please notice this, the problem is solved at this point, or   
   mostly solved if you compare it to some of the more fantastical believes   
   about 'basic income'). If they had done this at the company level, it   
   would proof that this Nation its people possess the fortitude and   
   morality and care to at least do this on a smaller scale, so that could   
   give some hope that it might also work on a larger scale. If on the   
   other hand they do not manage it on the small scale (which they   
   generally do not), then why do they think they can manage it on a larger   
   scale ? (I think the answer to that is: they do *not think*.)   
      
   Even if they could do it, it is still a massive mistake, because it   
   destroys the market. Once you have a planned economy, you destroyed the   
   market because everyone is already payed (supposedly) from the central   
   command center. There are too many problems with Basic Income to just   
   give counter arguments in one posting. You probably need a book for it   
   to list all the problems in detail, and you can spice it up with the   
   disaster of Stalinist Russia and other centralized planned economies.   
      
   P.S.   
      
   Basic income is a plan which was called 'Helicopter money' from the   
   idea fo just throwing money out of an helicopter to the masses   
   to keep the system going for a bit longer. it was an idea the big banks   
   where apparently interested in. Then suddenly not long after this was   
   mentioned in some blog about the economy, ordinary people start being   
   propagandized and believing in 'Basic Income'.   
      
   The people will *not* just keep working as they would otherwise. The   
   people do not work for nothing, and even if they might still do some   
   work if they really like their work, it will generally collapse. The   
   system will then morphe from being activated by 'the carrot' (reward of   
   money), by the stick. It will become an abusive dictatorship, to force   
   people back to work.   
      
   You cannot spend money, money doesn't retain its value, if the person   
   you are trying to buy something from doesn't even show up for the job.   
   You can see how this plan is perfectly aligned with the top criminals in   
   the world, the ruling gangsters, who are lusting after a centralized   
   dictatorship over the entire world. Basic Income equals Tyranny.   
      
   People should be a bit smarter, and think: why do I even know about this   
   plan in the first place ? They think ideas can spread organically, and   
   though this may be theoretically possible, you don't just get space in   
   newspapers just because you have hair on your head. Once you see the   
   mass media promoting something, you know the top criminals are having   
   their plans with it.   
      
   The peolpe don't notice it, because they refuse to think whatsoever, in   
   any shape or form. To have an idea, to create pro and counter arguments,   
   to investigate them all and balance them like a puzzle (perhaps a   
   difficult puzzle), they just don't do it. They just don't invest any   
   time or energy into things like this, whatsoever.   
      
   Non-think is the basic populist platform of Basic Income.   
      
      
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