XPost: 24hoursupport.helpdesk, alt.politics.scorched-earth, uk.politics.misc   
   XPost: uk.legal, alt.politics.uk   
   From: anfi@wp.eu   
      
   AndyW wrote:   
   > On 16/01/2017 09:51, burfordTjustice wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:10:45 +0000   
   >> AndyW wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 13/01/2017 14:51, burfordTjustice wrote:   
   >>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:08:48 +0000   
   >>>> AndyW wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 12/01/2017 11:55, burfordTjustice wrote:   
   >>>>>> The Anglican Church was co-opted by the left decades ago and now   
   >>>>>> the islamists have gained a toe-hold. This incident is nothing   
   >>>>>> short of blasphemy and should be immediately repudiated by the   
   >>>>>> Archbishop of Canterbury and the The Queen.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What on earth has it to do with the Queen?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Andy   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Are you a frog, asian, invader??   
   >>>   
   >>> Neither although I am from immigrant stock back to the 1500s I am   
   >>> scottish all the way but there prior to that there was some viking   
   >>> influence and some Irish too.   
   >>> Under the 'one single drop' rule I must be an immigrant.   
   >>>   
   >>>> The Church of England is the Anglican Christian state church of   
   >>>> England.[2][3][4] Headed by the Archbishop of Canterbury (currently   
   >>>> Justin Welby) and primarily governed from London with the monarch as   
   >>>> the supreme governor, the Church of England is also the mother   
   >>>> church of the international Anglican Communion. The church dates   
   >>>> its formal establishment as a national church to the 6th-century   
   >>>> Gregorian mission in Kent led by Augustine of Canterbury,[5][6]   
   >>>> with considerable features introduced and established during and   
   >>>> following the English Reformation in the 16th century.   
   >>>   
   >>> Indeed but this happened in Scotland which is not England and in the   
   >>> Scottish Episcopalian church which is not the Church of England. The   
   >>> queen is not the head of the SEC and the Archbishop of Canterbury has   
   >>> no control over the Scottish Episcopalian church.   
   >>> While the Anglican church is the mother church it has no direct   
   >>> control over the members of the international anglican communion and   
   >>> the archbishop of canterbury has no control over other bishops.   
   >>>   
   >>> Andy   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Your attempt to change the subject is weak...   
   >   
   > ITYM correct your error...   
   >   
   >> You said:"What on earth has it to do with the Queen?"   
   >>   
   >> ans,   
   >> The Church of England is the Anglican Christian state church of   
   >> England.[2][3][4] Headed by the Archbishop of Canterbury (currently   
   >> Justin Welby) and primarily governed from London with the monarch as   
   >> the supreme governor, the Church of England is also the mother church   
   >> of the international Anglican Communion. The church dates its formal   
   >> establishment as a national church to the 6th-century Gregorian mission   
   >> in Kent led by Augustine of Canterbury,[5][6] with considerable   
   >> features introduced and established during and following the English   
   >> Reformation in the 16th century.   
   >>   
   >   
   > The queen is *not* the head of the Scottish Episcopalian Church and   
   > the Archbishop of Canterbury has no control over the Scottish   
   > Episcopalian church.   
   > The SEC is part of the Anglican Communion but the Queen has no control   
   > over members of the communion nor does the AoC and more than the Queen   
   > has control over the Episcopalian church of the USA.   
   > The SEC is controlled by the General Synod under guidance of the   
   > Primus and the Archbishop of Canterbury has no input to the Synod.   
   >   
   > "Church of England is also the mother church of the international   
   > Anglican Communion" Indeed it is and the Parliament in London is the   
   > 'mother of all parliaments' but has no control over the other   
   > parliaments. Being the mother church is historic. It has no powers to   
   > impose rule on communion members otherwise there would be women   
   > bishops in all the members of the anglican communion and gey clergy   
   > would be permitted in all communion members.   
   >   
   > You can keep posting the same thing but it does not make you correct.   
   >   
   > Andy   
      
   So: The Queen has no "power to impose rule" over Scottish Episcopalian Church.   
   Does it exclude Defender of the Faith *obligation* to "scold"?   
      
   --   
   A. Filip   
   Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be   
   sorry. (Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar")   
      
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