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   JNugent to Ed Pawlowski   
   Re: Farmer should be given a medal, not    
   12 Mar 17 17:27:12   
   
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   From: jenningsltd@fastmail.fm   
      
   On 12/03/2017 17:25, Ed Pawlowski wrote:   
      
   > On 3/12/2017 10:50 AM, JNugent wrote:   
      
   >>> I have no evidence that he was telling the truth   
      
   >> Yes, you do.   
      
   >> If he gave oral evidence at his trial, it was under oath or affirmation.   
      
   >> If it was a written affirmation, it will have been topped and tailed by   
   >> standard phrases attesting to the truth of the statement just as in an   
   >> oral oath.   
      
   >> You therefore do have evidence to the effect that it is the truth. What   
   >> other evidence of that were you seeking?   
      
   > I'd have believed you if I was in the fourth grade.  By fifth grade I   
   > realized people will lie under oath.   
      
   There is a distinction to be drawn between evidence (which is what is   
   under discussion) and proof (which isn't).   
      
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