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   burfordTjustice to Andy Wainwright   
   Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Britain=E2=80=99s?= Respon   
   26 Mar 17 14:54:52   
   
   XPost: uk.politics.misc, 24hoursupport.helpdesk, alt.politics.scorched-earth   
   XPost: uk.legal, alt.politics.uk   
   From: burfordTjustice@tues.uk   
      
   On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 08:10:50 -0700 (PDT)   
   Andy Wainwright  wrote:   
      
   > On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 12:57:37 PM UTC+1, burfordTjustice wrote:   
   > > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 04:54:44 -0700 (PDT)   
   > > Andy Wainwright  wrote:   
   > >    
   > > > On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 12:36:02 PM UTC+1, Andy Wainwright   
   > > > wrote:   
   > > > > On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 12:01:45 PM UTC+1, burfordTjustice   
   > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > Might the officer have been killed anyway? Yes, but he also   
   > > > > > might have at least had a chance with a gun.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Britain’s Response To Terror Threat: Keep 90 Percent Of Police   
   > > > > > Officers Unarmed   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > The officer stabbed in Wednesday’s terror attack in London was   
   > > > > > unarmed, like more than 90 percent of the British police   
   > > > > > force.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Ketih Palmer, 48, was stabbed to death while guarding the   
   > > > > > entrance to the British Houses of Parliament unarmed. Just   
   > > > > > 2,800 out of London’s 31,075 police officers are armed, which   
   > > > > > the police force considers a safety measure.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > A cornerstone principle of the Metropolitan Police in London   
   > > > > > is that guns send the wrong message to communities by   
   > > > > > provoking crime rather than preventing it. Most officers are   
   > > > > > only equipped with batons, handcuffs, a mace and in some   
   > > > > > cases, stun-guns. A small number of specially-trained   
   > > > > > officers are the only ones carrying guns on patrol. These   
   > > > > > include counterterrorism police and some officers in   
   > > > > > high-risk areas like the Parliament.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > While countries such as Germany, France and Belgium have put   
   > > > > > more armed officers on the streets in response to a wave of   
   > > > > > terror attacks around the continent, the United Kingdom has   
   > > > > > maintained its “policing by consent” approach to security.   
   > > > > > The Metropolitan Police increased the number of armed   
   > > > > > officers by 600 after the truck attack in Nice last July, but   
   > > > > > the total number is still a mere 9 percent of the entire   
   > > > > > force.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > “Our neighborhood officers — the ones who know their streets,   
   > > > > > who know their environment and who know many of the names of   
   > > > > > the people in their communities — are our major weapon. They   
   > > > > > are our eyes and ears on the street,” Bernard Hogan-Howe, the   
   > > > > > previous commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, said in   
   > > > > > 2016, adding that it “gives us a far healthier relationship   
   > > > > > with the people we police.”   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Wednesday’s attack sparked a debate among lawmakers about   
   > > > > > whether security needs to be enhanced around government   
   > > > > > buildings, particularly the “weak spot” where Palmer was   
   > > > > > killed.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > “It’s a terrible, terrible day for Parliament, the one weak   
   > > > > > spot on our estate is those carriage gates,” member of the   
   > > > > > House of Commons Mary Creagh told The Telegraph. “We have   
   > > > > > four police officers there, two on the gate going in, two on   
   > > > > > the gate going out, we see them every day, we are friends   
   > > > > > with lots of them.”   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Former Minister Ian Duncan Smith asked why an armed officer   
   > > > > > wasn’t assigned to the gate, saying it was a “little bit of a   
   > > > > > surprise that there was not.”   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > France put thousands of armed soldiers on the streets after   
   > > > > > suffering two terror attacks in 2015. The approach may have   
   > > > > > prevented a terror attack Feb. 3 at the Louvre Museum. A man   
   > > > > > tried to enter the shopping center at the museum with two   
   > > > > > briefcases. He pulled out two machetes when he was refused   
   > > > > > entry and attacked a soldier, shouting, “Allahu akbar.”   
   > > > > > Another soldier responded by opening fire against the   
   > > > > > attacker.   
   > > > >    
   > > > > Police tend to be reluctant to carry guns because it seems to   
   > > > > increase the chances of the criminals carrying them too. What   
   > > > > can happen with routine arming and militarisation of policing   
   > > > > is an arms race can escalate between law enforcers and law   
   > > > > breakers.   
   > > >    
   > > > This makes sense, a crook is less likely to open fire on an   
   > > > unarmed cop, as simply pointing the gun at them will likely make   
   > > > them back off and call for backup. Whereas if there's two armed   
   > > > combatants, the chances of a firefight are much higher.   
   > > >    
   > > > Of course, some crooks are psychopaths and will kill unarmed   
   > > > officers, including women and other emergency service personnel.   
   > >    
   > > What a wonderful kooky world you live in...   
   > > is it drug induced?   
   >    
   > On any side of a war, including the war between police and criminals   
   > there is a mutual desire to keep the level of weaponry from growing   
   > out of hand. That's why there have been international treaties   
   > banning chemical and biological weapons, as well as moves to reduce   
   > stocks of nuclear weapons.   
      
   You failed to answer the question:   
      
   What a wonderful kooky world you live in...   
   is it drug induced?   
      
   Stay on the porch.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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