XPost: aus.politics, alt.politics.scorched-earth, uk.politics.misc   
   XPost: uk.legal, alt.politics.uk   
   From: james.harris.1@gmail.com   
      
   On 08/04/2017 08:01, Gordon Levi wrote:   
   > James Harris  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 07/04/2017 10:10, Gordon Levi wrote:   
   >>> Handsome Jack  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Gordon Levi  posted   
   >>>>> James Harris  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Of course. Sensible boosting of trade helps all sides.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yes, it's good for Australia but will the removal of the European free   
   >>>>> market help the U.K? I note at least two large corporations have   
   >>>>> already moved their European office out of England.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Really, which two are these, and when did this happen?   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm sorry, I got carried away. I doubt if any large corporation could   
   >>> have completed the move in such a short time. Worse still, the only   
   >>> one I actually remembered, Lloyds, is only moving some of its staff   
   >>> from London to Brussels.   
   >>   
   >> I am pro Brexit but welcome British firms setting up offices on the   
   >> continent because that can mean keeping the UK free of the EU regulatory   
   >> restrictions that would be associated with 'passports' or 'equivalence'.   
   >> Second to being able to make our own trade deals, regaining regulatory   
   >> freedom is probably the best way for us to increase our future prosperity.   
   >   
   > I am also pro Brexit because I think the U.K. does not deserve to be   
   > in the E.U. There has always been the British attitude that "wogs   
   > begin at Calais".   
      
   That's a horrible attitude which I think we left behind in the 1970s. Of   
   course you can still find some with xenophobic yob mentalities if you   
   look hard enough but you would have to be prejudiced to think they have   
   a voice in modern Britain.   
      
   Besides, there are similar people on the continent. They are not a   
   British speciality.   
      
   > I think sending the anti-EU advocate, Nigel Farage,   
   > to represent the U.K in the European Parliament is so insulting that I   
   > would have expelled them if I had the power.   
   >   
   > As for trade deals, you had full access to the common market and you   
   > have thrown it away. It is unlikely that the U.K. alone can negotiate   
   > better trade deals than those that are negotiated by the E.U.   
      
   Basically agreed. The EU28 can offer to potential trading partners a   
   market of 510 million people. That has given it a lot of weight in trade   
   negs.   
      
   However, a significant number of those 510 million are relatively poor   
   and don't have much spending power. When Britain leaves, it will take a   
   disproportionately high level of disposable income with it.   
      
   But the main difference is that the UK will be faster - much faster - at   
   opening up new trade. The EU has been incredibly poor at building new   
   trade links for two reasons: (1) it has had 28 nations to try to   
   accommodate, (2) it is fat, lazy and bloated; it lacks motivation.   
      
   I expect you'll find Britain outside the EU will soon /overtake/ the   
   amount of trade the EU has ever got for us.   
      
   --   
   James Harris   
      
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