XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.legal, alt.politics.uk   
   From: burfordTjustice@tues.uk   
      
   On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:12:32 GMT   
   Ned Latham  wrote:   
      
   > burfordTjustice wrote:   
   > > Nightjar wrote:   
   > > > Ned Latham wrote:   
   > > > > Nightjar wrote:   
   > > > > > Ned Latham wrote:   
   > > > > > ....   
   > > > > > > Supposedly, MOAB is an acronym, standing for "Massive   
   > > > > > > Ordinace Air Blast:.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Which is what the weapon is. There is discussion over which   
   > > > > > is the best way to deal with a cave system - an air blast   
   > > > > > weapon, blanket bombing, or guided bunker buster bombs.   
   > > > > > However, if you want to give POTUS a publicity opportunity,   
   > > > > > choose the MOAB, which has never been used in action before.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Nowhere near massive enough to be effective as an air blast   
   > > > > weapon against underground assets that are anything like well   
   > > > > built. That's why the Tallboy and Grand Slam were designed to   
   > > > > penetrate deep into the ground before exploding. It causes a   
   > > > > local earthquake.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > A big enough air blast will punch a cavern flat if it and the   
   > > > > target are both near enough to ground zero, but the power   
   > > > > required is disproportionate: with all but nuclear weapons, the   
   > > > > target needs to be only a few tens of metres away, because the   
   > > > > blast deflects along the ground. As I said, a gas bomb delivers   
   > > > > much more bang for the buck (as an air blast weapon).   
   > > > >   
   > > > > MOAB is a misnomer. It should be called what it is. Maybe then   
   > > > > it would get used correctly.   
   > > >   
   > > > I think you are missing my point. The weapon was almost certainly   
   > > > chosen not for its effectiveness, but for its publicity value.   
   > > > Donald Trump is sending a message both to the world and to his   
   > > > supporters.   
   > >   
   > > Clearly you are clueless, Trump did not approve the dropping of   
   > > the MOAB.   
   >   
   > What gives you that idea?   
   >   
   > >           His prior approval was not needed.   
   >   
   > If Trump didn't order it for the political reason that Nightjar   
   > suggested, the question arises as to why was it used at all.   
   > As a purely military excercise, the use of MOAB to kill a few   
   > snipers is an extremely expensive absurdity.   
   >   
   > Ned   
      
   Cause that is the fact....You would already have know that   
   if you really was wanting the truth...   
      
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