XPost: uk.politics.misc, alt.home.repair, uk.legal   
   XPost: alt.politics.uk   
   From: burfordTjustice@tues.uk   
      
   On Wed, 24 May 2017 04:10:32 -0700 (PDT)   
   mrowing@btopenworld.com wrote:   
      
   > On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 11:00:32 AM UTC+1, burfordTjustice   
   > wrote:   
   > > So, All the cameras, all the spying om UK citizens all   
   > > the arrests/threats over social media posts and spoken word   
   > > prevent nothing. Jihadists continue on.   
   >   
   > And will continue to do so as long as they keep the right side of the   
   > law. The big advantage they do have is that they alone decide when   
   > and where they cross that red line.   
   >   
   > It's no use decrying the existence of surveillance systems as   
   > countermeasures against terrorism.   
   >   
   > For a start efficient surveillance and intelligence gathering are all   
   > the security community have if we are to avoid the kind of society   
   > where paranoia rules. There was a guy on TV this morning who argued   
   > that we should not be afraid to go to crowd events out of fear for   
   > what the terrorist might do since we simply can't run out lives so.   
   > He was dead right and it's still a fact that you are more likely to   
   > die or suffer serious mishap through an RTA on the way to such an   
   > event than through anything the terrorist might do.   
   >   
   > Further to that it is impossible to assess the effect of security   
   > devices, vigilance both state and publicly provided since we have no   
   > way of measuring or recording events that do not happen. We will   
   > never know how much terrorist crime has in fact been deterred by such   
   > measures.   
   >   
   > However, general experience suggests to us that such measures do have   
   > some contribution to make  in keeping ur society safe just as the   
   > same good sense suggests to us that it is expedient to look both ways   
   > before stepping into the road.   
      
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