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   XPost: uk.legal, alt.politics.uk   
   From: the_todal@icloud.com   
      
   On 25/05/2017 10:28, James Harris wrote:   
   > On 24/05/2017 15:41, Judith wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:26:26 +0100, The Todal    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Unfortunately the Manchester atrocity could happen again, maybe at a big   
   >>> football stadium anywhere in the UK, and there's nothing that can be   
   >>> done to prevent it, only to reduce the chances of it happening.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> And in order to track and monitor people of interest and have people   
   >> on the   
   >> streets spotting suspicious behaviour - cutting police/MI5 numbers makes   
   >> perfect sense.   
   >>   
   >> The number of police officers has been cut by the Nasty party by about   
   >> 20,000   
   >> since 2010.   
   >   
   > I just heard on the radio that crime _fell_ over that period.   
   >   
   > This is always a question for the left. Do you measure progress by   
   > outcomes or do you think the more you spend the better? Does it appear   
   > to the left that spending is a sign of progress?   
   >   
      
   Well, here's a question for the Tories. If you reduce police numbers and   
   increase bureaucracy and target-driven procedures, fewer crimes will be   
   reported, fewer will be investigated and more people will be fobbed off   
   with "no crime, just a domestic argument".  Do you measure progress by   
   manipulating statistics or do you measure it by asking the public if   
   they feel safe on our streets with no police about, and feel adequately   
   supported if they report what they believe to be a crime?   
      
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