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   From: remailer@domain.invalid   
      
   On 29 Sep 2021, Siri Cruise  posted some   
      
   > In article , Ken    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> What do you think the military would do to an enlisted man who   
   was   
   >> known to have told another country that if this country was to   
   plan   
   >> an attack he would let them know in advance???   
   >   
   > (1) Enlisted ranks are not instructed in the matters of illegal   
   > orders as are officers. Ask what a lieutenant/ensign would do.   
      
   Boy are you fucking ignorant.   
      
   Every soul wearing a uniform from E1 to 010 is informed about so   
   called "illegal orders".   
      
   The defacto rule is follow your last order first whether you agree   
   with it or not.   
      
   The rules don't change just because you have a bar or chickens on   
   your collar instead of chevrons and rockers.   
      
   > (2) How would a president legally launch a nuclear attack without   
   > cause or congress?   
      
   You're reaching out your ass with this one.   
      
   > (3) Do you really want officers to obey illegal orders to start   
   > an illegal war?   
      
   That is what officers do when ordered by their Commander in Chief.   
      
   See Kennedy, Vietnam   
   See Clinton, Iraq   
   See Obama and the other Clinton, Libya   
      
   > (4) If you say no war was planned, then you're whining officers   
   > prevented an action that was not going to happen. So what exactly   
   > are you whining about?   
      
   The officer in question crossed a line and broke with his chain of   
   command.   
      
   He assumed authority he did not have.   
      
   He should be relieved and forced into retirement immediately.   
      
   In time of war, he would have been handed a pistol and expected to   
   do the correct thing.   
      
   > (5) After nearly accidentally incinterating the world multiple   
   > times, countries realised it would be a real good idea if their   
   > militaries talked directly to each so misunderstandings could be   
   > resolved before things got on the way to getting out of hand. Now   
   > you prefer to burn the world because a blowhard's rants are, you   
   > say, misunderstood.   
      
   Bull shit.  The military is involved in destruction and killing of   
   enemies, not politics.   
      
   If you prefer faggots with slinghots defending your country, join   
   Antifa.   
      
   > Oh, and, yes, fuck you. Fuck yourself with Steely Dan.   
      
   Yeah well fuck you and Bob Dylan.   
      
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