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   Message 64,733 of 65,031   
   Clive Andrews to Lou Bricano   
   Re: Epstein Accuser Says Bill Clinton Pa   
   11 Sep 23 01:24:06   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics   
   XPost: alt.crime, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics   
   From: remailer@domain.invalid   
      
   Lou Bricano  wrote in news::   
      
   > How about those Clintons?  Hillary defends pedophiles and Bill   
   rapes children.   
      
   In newly unsealed documents, one of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine   
   Maxwell’s most prominent accusers claims the perverted duo forced   
   her to have sex with Britain’s Prince Andrew and other “politically   
   connected and financially powerful people” when she was underage.   
      
   Late Thursday night, a judge ordered the release of a tranche of   
   documents in a long-running defamation case between Maxwell and   
   Virginia Roberts Giuffre, previously “Jane Doe No. 3,” who appeared   
   as a 17-year-old in the now-infamous picture with Prince Andrew as   
   he grabbed her waist and Maxwell grinned in the background. (In the   
   court docs, Giuffre reveals she gave the photograph to the FBI in   
   2011 and that the feds made copies.)   
      
   The case was settled in 2017, and Maxwell and the Duke of York have   
   vehemently denied Giuffre’s claims. But Maxwell’s lawyers have also   
   fought long and hard to keep documents in the case under seal,   
   arguing their release could expose and ruin the reputations of many   
   well-connected people.   
      
   Indeed, one name in the unsealed papers was that of a former U.S.   
   president. Giuffre told one attorney that Bill Clinton was a guest   
   during a trip to Epstein’s private isle in the U.S. Virgin Islands   
   and that Epstein joked to her about Clinton being in his pocket.   
      
   “You know, I remember asking Jeffrey what’s Bill Clinton doing here   
   [on the island],” Giuffre told the lawyer. According to a transcript   
   of their conversation, Giuffre added that Epstein laughed off her   
   question and said, “Well, he owes me a favor.”   
      
   “He never told me what favors they were,” Giuffre said. “I never   
   knew. I didn’t know if he was serious. It was just a joke.”   
      
   Asked who else was present on the island with Epstein and Clinton,   
   Giuffre answered Maxwell, someone named Emmy (presumably Maxwell’s   
   former assistant Emmy Tayler), and two “young girls” from New York.   
   Giuffre said Clinton and the other visitors stayed in villas   
   separate from the main house. (While Giuffre does not implicate the   
   former president in any wrongdoing, she does note orgies were   
   routine on the island.)   
      
   “When Ghislaine Maxwell used the words, ‘Go give a massage to Bill   
   Richardson,’ where were you?”   
   A second politician named in the documents was former New Mexico   
   Gov. Bill Richardson.   
      
   In a 2016 deposition, Giuffre said Maxwell sent her to New Mexico to   
   give a “massage” to the Democratic governor. “When Ghislaine Maxwell   
   used the words, ‘Go give a massage to Bill Richardson,’ where were   
   you?” Maxwell’s lawyer asked.   
      
   “I can’t tell you where we were. I know where I was sent to. I don’t   
   know where we were when she told me to do that,” Giuffre answered.   
   (Richardson has denied involvement in Epstein’s sex ring.)   
      
   Maxwell also allegedly sent Giuffre to have sex with the owner of a   
   large hotel chain during a visit to France, around the time of Naomi   
   Campbell’s birthday party.   
      
   Asked where they had sex, Giuffre said, “In his own cabana townhouse   
   thing. It was part of a hotel, but I wouldn’t call it a hotel.   
   Jeffrey was staying there. Ghislaine was staying there. Emmy was   
   staying there. I was staying there. This other guy was staying   
   there. I don’t know his name. I was instructed by Ghislaine to go   
   and give him an erotic massage.”   
      
   Giuffre added that Maxwell directed her to have sex with the late   
   MIT scientist Marvin Minsky at Epstein’s Caribbean compound.   
      
   Other men to whom Giuffre claimed to have been trafficked include   
   Prince Andrew, financier Glenn Dubin, model scout Jean-Luc Brunel,   
   Harvard Law Prof. Alan Dershowitz, and “another prince.” (Brunel,   
   Prince Andrew, Dershowitz, and Dubin have all denied her claims.)   
      
   In her testimony, Giuffre painted a disturbing picture of Epstein’s   
   wealthy lifestyle. She said Epstein had a “secret room” with “a   
   whole bunch of decorative pictures of pornographic literature and   
   sex toys.” From the ceiling to the floor, the walls were covered   
   with “pornographic pictures of the girls that he had met,” she said.   
      
      
   Maxwell also allegedly dressed Giuffre up in schoolgirl outfits for   
   Epstein. This included “lots of” role-playing with latex, too,   
   Giuffre told a lawyer.   
      
   “Jeffrey would tell me to go give an erotic massage to friends. He   
   wouldn’t give me much detail about it, but he would say to treat   
   them like you treat me.”   
   “Jeffrey loved the latex outfits Ghislaine had for us girls, he had   
   bondage outfits, he had all different kinds of outfits, but his   
   favorite was the schoolgirl.”   
      
      
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