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   From: Skeeterweed@proton.me   
      
   In article , omar@jollykone.com says...   
   >   
   > On 04 Jan 2024, Michael A Terrell  posted   
   > some news:mtFlN.59641$JLvf.52533@fx44.iad:   
   >   
   > > On 1/4/2024 12:59 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,   
   > > convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:   
   > >   
   > >> In article , max.boot@lathymes.com   
   > >> says...   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Here's the text of the amendment:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>      No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise   
   > >>>      infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a   
   > >>>      Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval   
   > >>>      forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of   
   > >>>      War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for   
   > >>>      the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;   
   > >>>      nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness   
   > >>>      against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,   
   > >>>      without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken   
   > >>>      for public use, without just compensation.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> There are only three clauses here that conceivably could pertain to   
   > >>> 14.3 disqualification...except, of course, they don't:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>      1) No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or   
   > >>>      otherwise infamous   
   > >>>        crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury   
   > >>>   
   > >>>      2) nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be   
   > >>>      twice put in   
   > >>>        jeopardy of life or limb   
   > >>>   
   > >>>      3) nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due   
   > >>>      process of law   
   > >>>   
   > >>> 1. "Held to answer" means charged with a crime. Trump isn't being   
   > >>> charged with a   
   > >>>      crime in connection with 14.3, nor is there any need to do so.   
   > >>>      He is, of course, being charged with some federal crimes ?   
   > >>>      insurrection *not* being among them ? and he has been duly   
   > >>>      indicted by grand juries. There is no violation of this clause   
   > >>>      in seeking to disqualify Trump under 14.3   
   > >>>   
   > >>> 2. There is no double jeopardy violation in seeking to disqualify   
   > >>> Trump.   
   > >>>      Separately, Trump is claiming a double jeopardy violation in   
   > >>>      his federal election criminal case, but that's absurd, and   
   > >>>      everyone knows it. He was not put in jeopardy of life or limb,   
   > >>>      or of loss of liberty, in his Senate impeachment trial.   
   > >>>      Impeachment proceedings are a purely *political* affair.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>      There is no double jeopardy violation in seeking his   
   > >>>      disqualification under 14.3, and not even in prosecuting him   
   > >>>      for his crimes related to the election. This is settled.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> 3. Disqualification under 14.3 will not deprive Trump of life,   
   > >>> liberty or   
   > >>>      property, and Trump is *receiving* due process in the   
   > >>>      disqualification efforts. There is no due process violation in   
   > >>>      seeking Trump's disqualification under 14.3. This is settled.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The fifth amendment has absolutely no bearing on whether or not   
   > >>> Trump can be disqualified under section 3 of the 14th amendment ?   
   > >>> none whatsoever.   
   > >>   
   > >> I like to stuff gerbils and other small rodents up my asshole.   
   > >   
   > > I would.   
   >   
   > You do.   
      
   Omar? You racist fuck.   
      
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