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   Democrats post-2016 election were all in on election denial.   
      
   Donald Trump cheated. The Russians did it. Hacking! Donald Trump is an   
   illegitimate president! Hillary even said the election was stolen, and   
   nearly every Democrat claimed that Trump didn't win the election.   
      
   Prior to the 2020 elections, we heard warnings put out in stentorian tones   
   about how voting machines could be hacked (they can, easily), and that   
   people should be prepared for election tampering.   
      
   Then Joe Biden was declared the winner in 2020, and challenging elections   
   was tantamount to treason. Election "denialism" is one of the great sins   
   of which Donald Trump and all Republicans are accused. It is a threat to   
   democracy itself to express any doubts about the results of an election.   
      
   It is a mystery why anybody WOULD question our elections, after all.   
   Banning voter ID, suing to stop taking illegal aliens off the voter rolls,   
   and fighting against hand-counting ballots is perfectly normal and   
   understandable. Why would anybody want to impose the very same election   
   integrity tools that almost every First-world country uses? Trust the   
   system!   
      
   Except now that Kamala Harris is in danger of losing--all signs point to   
   yes on that point--the specter of election tampering is being raised again   
   by Democrats.   
      
   You sorta expect it of Democrat flaks and politicians; they are paid liars   
   who will use any hoax to get an advantage. Every single thing they say   
   these days is a lie, with the exception of a few decent commentators and   
   even politicians. But when Anne Applebaum of the venerable and now   
   insanely anti-Trump The Atlantic starts talking about Trump rigging the   
   election, I can't figure out whether to laugh or cry.   
      
   Honestly, it is really deranged.   
      
   This time, we are living in a much different world. The predictions of   
   what might happen on November 5 and in the days that follow are not based   
   on rumors. On the contrary, we can be absolutely certain that an attempt   
   will be made to steal the 2024 election if Kamala Harris wins. Trump   
   himself has repeatedly refused to acknowledge the results of the 2020   
   election. He has waffled on and evaded questions about whether he will   
   accept the outcome in 2024. He has hired lawyers to prepare to challenge   
   the results.   
      
   Trump also has a lot more help this time around from his own party.   
   Strange things are happening in state legislatures: a West Virginia   
   proposal to “not recognize an illegitimate presidential election” (which   
   could be read as meaning not recognize the results if a Democrat wins); a   
   last-minute push, ultimately unsuccessful, to change the way Nebraska   
   allocates its electoral votes. Equally weird things are happening in state   
   election boards. Georgia’s has passed a rule requiring that all ballots be   
   hand-counted, as well as machine-counted, which, if not overturned, will   
   introduce errors—machines are more accurate—and make the process take much   
   longer. A number of county election boards have in recent elections tried   
   refusing to certify votes, not least because many are now populated with   
   actual election deniers, who believe that frustrating the will of the   
   people is their proper role. Multiple people and groups are also seeking   
   mass purges of the electoral rolls.   
      
   Just to be clear, Democrats challenge the results all the time, and they   
   have many more lawyers who specialize in this. To point to having lawyers   
   ready as an attempt to steal the election is rich. I bet Anne is quite   
   familiar with Marc Elias and his shenanigans. He is so scummy that some   
   Democrats have shied away from him.   
      
   As for how Trump might steal the election post-counting, Applebaum has   
   deployed a very vivid imagination. In fact, Democrats have already said   
   that they WILL challenge a Trump victory in Congress, and have been   
   pushing for many a Constitutional "reform" to remake our entire federal   
   system.   
      
   Kamala Harris has been an election denier, and will be one of the people   
   certifying the election results. Will she do it if she loses? Who knows,   
   but Applebaum doesn't care to ask.   
      
   I can't tell whether these people believe their own BS or not. Are they   
   just jacking up the fear, as they have ever since Trump got elected? Or   
   are they so brainwashed that they believe this tripe?   
      
   Applebaum lives in her East Coast liberal bubble, so I suspect she   
   believes it. She fears that scary Christians are going to rise up and   
   commit massacres or some such idiocy. As Venezuelan gangs roam our   
   streets, she spends time worrying that Christian nationalists are joining   
   militias to install Trump as Dictator-for-Life.   
      
   It's absurd, but these fantasies have inspired not one but TWO   
   assassination attempts on the former president. Mark Halperin is likely   
   right that a Trump victory will create the single-largest mental health   
   crisis in American history. We have been building up to it, and liberals   
   already are primed. Look at how COVID deranged them. Look at gender   
   ideology. Look at Trump Derangement Syndrome.   
      
   The groundwork is there. Left-wing violence is already on the upswing.   
   Imagine what might happen if Trump pulls this out, as it increasingly   
   seems like he will.   
      
   https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/10/16/democrats-reembrace-election-   
   denial-n3795885   
      
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