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   Topaz to All   
   Re: Re: Capitalism is GREAT   
   11 Jun 06 18:33:12   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.socialism, alt.politics.usa   
   XPost: alt.politics   
   From: mars1933@hotmail.com   
      
         Capitalism and Communism are both bad. The problem with   
   capitalism is that it puts no special value on people. Capitalism is   
   based on supply and demand. A capitalist company that made potato   
   chips for example would need--X number of potatoes, Y amount of salt,   
   and Z number of human beings for labor. The human beings have no more   
   value than the potatoes or the salt. And they consider it good to pay   
   they humans as little as they possibly can to increase their profits.   
      
        According to capitalist theory people must compete to see who   
   will work for the least pennies per hour. They say everyone must   
   compete with the people in Mexico and China to see who will work for   
   the fewest pennies. If a company makes billions in profit while paying   
   its employees starvation wages that is perfectly fine. At least the   
   sacred laws of supply and demand are not violated. If the people die   
   of starvation that is fine too. You can always get more people. If   
   there is not enough work for everyone to do then they think people   
   need to die off. Ebenezer Scrooge did everything right according to   
   the capitalists and followed the beliefs and values of capitalism.   
      
          The apologists for  the Scrooges correctly point out that   
   people only start business for a profit. Of course that is true.   
   Anyone can see that communism is a big mistake. But wouldn't people   
   start the business for only millions in profits rather than billions?   
   What if there were laws that made sure working people got a reasonable   
   share of the profit? Would that be so terrible?   
      
       In a hypothetical case suppose technology progressed so far that   
   all   
   the work were done by machines. Huge farms gathering food and all   
   automated. You would think everything would be great, but under   
   capitalism the people would starve because there wouldn't be enough   
   jobs.   
      
         Capitalists oppose welfare and say that orphans and other needy   
   people should be helped by charity. How much charity would there be   
   when capitalists openly say that selfishness is a great virtue? If   
   there was no welfare then the charitable people would have to pay for   
   everything while most people would not pay one thin dime. We have   
   welfare so people all pay their fair share. It is part of having   
   civilization.   
      
               We have many laws that  make things better for people.   
   There are laws that give people extra pay if they work over forty   
   hours. There are laws that ensure people will have retirement.   
   Capitalism is for doing away with the laws so businesses can be free   
   to be as  greedy as possible.There are laws that keep people from   
   getting ripped off when they buy a house. Capitalism is against that.   
   Capitalism is bad for people.   
      
      
      
      
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