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|    The Real Chris to mariner    |
|    Re: koran is not a holy book -abrogation    |
|    30 Jun 06 21:53:57    |
   
   XPost: alt.religion.christianity, alt.religion.islam, aus.religion.islam   
   XPost: soc.culture.iranian, uk.religion.islam   
   From: me@myself.com   
      
   In my readings of the Quran, it is written by Mahomet in around 500 AD after   
   an asteroid his us after he observed the light passing in front of the moon   
   and blasting into a place behind the mountain where mahomet was tending his   
   sheep.   
      
   Mahomet was a christian towards the end of the old Roman empire and was a   
   member of a congragation that met is a basilica in that area.   
      
   His account of a meteor fall was rejected by the clegy and the tribune and   
   the pope at that time. Mahomet took this celestial event as a sign and went   
   preaching.   
      
   His ideas were regarded as heretical "as stones could not fall from the sky   
   as there were no stones in the sky as it was the perfect realm of god". So   
   followers were split away from the christians. He was educated by the Roman   
   education system which was actually good with a large proportion of the   
   population able to read and write. Now the early moslem community received a   
   lot from the failing roman empire the asteroid had cast a dust cloud (this   
   only lasted 5 years and we still eat chestnuts as these were the only food)   
   and weakened the sun and the christians decided to pray and the pagans   
   sacrificed their children to bring an and to the snow cold and failing crops   
   that affected the whole world.   
      
   The moslems knew the darkening was due to the asteroid because mahomet   
   reported it and there was glass at that time so it was possible that these   
   enterprising people used closhes and glass houses to grow food, it is   
   recorded that other peoplle did but priests smashed them saying "God will   
   provide". The romans starved, paricularly the christians who left it to god.   
   The surviving moslems preserved as much as the roman knowlege as possible   
   such as circulation of blood and brain structure and function and the   
   tradition of the Jesus "the tribune" story, some versions did include the   
   space visitor too (secret knowlege of the central clique of the catholic,   
   coptic and bayzantium sects) (Jesus or Jess is a common name in roman   
   occupied palestine) that was normal until 300 AD. The Romans had extensive   
   scientific knowlege that the moslems knew and preserved. I think a pope, St   
   Bonface the first, around 900 AD, decided that all our ills were caused by   
   science and knowlege and abolished it, this left the moslems in a stronger   
   position, and the bazantium roman empire continued unaffected as the scism   
   between constantinople had occured.   
      
   The knowlege of Islam was declared "anathama" and rejected. At this time   
   islam conqests started and the peaceful message in the quaran was improved   
   to suit the new situation ("as mahomet would have wished")   
      
   Much of the quaran is derived from leviticus as a law of behaiviour and most   
   of the very severe punishments are identical to the jewish laws. Jesus is   
   mentioned about 400 times and the chistians are criticised. some laws, like   
   adulrtery are very difficult because we've all done it and the idead that a   
   man con't help it so he can have as many as he likes is a bit unfare because   
   a girl cant help it either.   
      
   The jews have an idea of atonement, which is actually apologising to a   
   person who you have wronged and asking their forgiveness, its really a   
   reconcilliation.   
      
   This is in Jesus' script and probably in islam to.   
      
   I think the moslems have this idea too, and justice is fairly reasonable,   
   for example if a murder takes place then the victims brother is given the   
   opportunity to take the murderes life, traditionally the murderer has to   
   bare his chest so the victims brother has the opportunity to take revenge.   
   This drama seldom results in a death but can result in reconciliation.   
      
   another diffence is the habitual thief has a finger removed to prevent   
   futher offences but legitimate tasks can be accomplished, in christian area   
   the criminal's brain is damaged to make a person too stupid for crime but   
   able to do simple labouring work. However the damage results in a person too   
   ill to work because the damage causes problems in memory and other   
   itellectual process so making the person terribly mentally disaabled, the   
   murdererous christians also do this for heretics and blasphemers. The brain   
   mapping is well known and much experimental work is done to find how best to   
   disable people. These brain damaging atrocities are as bad as were practised   
   by the NAZI's in Hitlers Germany, the germans intention was to brain damage   
   some one to they could only obey instruction and not instigate their own   
   actions. This has been achieved in the slave state of Britain. And it makes   
   Britain the slave capital of the world.   
      
   The slaves in islam were similarly treated by the barbary arabs in the slave   
   galleys and the slave girl sales.   
      
   The practice of brain damage is an anathema to god, and those that practise   
   it will be for ever dammed by the lord.   
      
   I really enjoyed my understanding of physics and maths and because the   
   insane killers of the christian church decided to damage my brain to prevent   
   such an undertanding thar was precious to me I would like the people   
   responsible hanged in the street because of all the terrible atrocities they   
   are carrying out all over the world.   
      
   The church leadership are criminally insane and their lunatic policies will   
   result in another dark ages. They have made me suffer all my life as I have   
   made it clear to them that death is the end. They have lost much of what I   
   may have been able to offer because of that and because of their insane   
   psycotic society called capitalism.   
      
   As a result of their lunatic ideas my innocent young face was venomusly   
   disfigured and and all my friends murdred and all they do is cheer because   
   they think they have achived immortality by getting rid of some one who says   
   its not true, I rewalise they want me to behave in an unpleasand way and   
   they have damaged my brain in such a way to make me behaive like that   
   whereas before I wanted to do physics, now I just want to tear these   
   christians apart which is just what they want me to do so they can preserve   
   their smug ideas of perfection just be the lies the tell including the   
   change in my personality form a quiet philosopher to an angry person which   
   is how the want to make their "anathema" person to be. This basic lie of the   
   church that has gone on for at least a thousand years. Shows how utterly   
   evil they are and their total control due to their grip on society through   
   their various secret societies and brain surgery and ruthless killings and   
   maimings is all to support the lie of immortality told to make people happy   
   and build a society based on forced labour on the false story told by the   
   professional liar of the priest. The priest gets his dinner so basically the   
   whole christian church is a protection racket for the preist. The most   
      
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