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   In article , HeatWave   
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   > Enkidu wrote:   
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   > > Yeah?  So is there any reason to believe a god exists or not?   
   >   
   > It has been said that there are two books that tell us about the   
   > existence of God—the “book” of creation, or nature around us, and the   
   > Bible. They have been the basis for belief for millions of people past   
   > and present. For example, a king of the 11th century B.C.E., impressed   
   > by what he observed in the starry heavens, exclaimed poetically: “The   
   > heavens are declaring the glory of God; and of the work of his hands the   
   > expanse is telling.” (Psalm 19:1) In the 20th century, an astronaut,   
   > looking at the spectacular view of the earth from his spacecraft as it   
   > circled the moon, was moved to recite: “In the beginning God created the   
   > heaven and the earth.”—Genesis 1:1, KJ.   
      
      
   Just so we're clear, that's a "no" then, right?   
      
      
      
      
   >   These two books, however, are under attack by those who claim no   
   > belief in God.   
      
      
   One of your "books" is nature, which is in fact, not a book and   
   not under attack.   
      
      
      
      
   > They say that scientific investigation of the world   
   > around us has proved that life came into existence not by intelligent   
   > creation but by blind chance and the haphazard process of evolution.   
      
      
   This is just a straw man. No one actually says this. When you lie   
   to people about their beliefs, do you honestly think you're   
   likely to persuade them that they're wrong?   
      
      
      
      
   > They argue, therefore, that there was no Creator and that it follows   
   > that the question of God is superfluous.   
      
      
   Another straw man.   
      
      
      
      
   > Furthermore, many of them   
   > believe that the Bible is simply out-of-date and illogical, hence, not   
   > worthy of belief.   
      
      
   I doubt the bible ever was in-date. It is, however, a bunch of   
   BS, hence, not worthy of belief.   
      
      
      
      
   > Consequently, for them, there is no longer any basis   
   > for belief in the existence of God. Is all of this true? What do the   
   > facts show?   
      
      
   The facts show that the christian god does not exist.   
      
      
      
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