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   From: HeatWave@mailinator.com   
      
   Gregory A Greenman wrote:   
      
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   >> They say that scientific investigation of the world   
   >> around us has proved that life came into existence not by intelligent   
   >> creation but by blind chance and the haphazard process of evolution.   
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   > This is just a straw man. No one actually says this. When you lie   
   > to people about their beliefs, do you honestly think you're   
   > likely to persuade them that they're wrong?   
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   If there was no Creator, then life must have started spontaneously by   
   chance.  Do you deny this? or is it another straw man. For life to have   
   come about, somehow the right chemicals would have had to come together   
   in the right quantities, under the right temperature and pressure and   
   other controlling factors, and all would have had to be maintained for   
   the correct length of time. Furthermore, for life to have begun and been   
   sustained on earth, these chance events would have had to be repeated   
   thousands of times. But how likely is it for even one such event to take   
   place?   
      
      
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   >> They argue, therefore, that there was no Creator and that it follows   
   >> that the question of God is superfluous.   
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   > Another straw man.   
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   > The facts show that the christian god does not exist.   
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   But Allah does? I guess 911 proves them right.   
      
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