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   Whip to tommi.hoynalanmaa@iki.fi   
   Re: The Black Book of the Sandinistas (1   
   24 Nov 06 18:57:09   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.russian   
   From: nowhere@none   
      
   I can tell by your answers"by the book" that you are a armchair communist   
   fool.You haven`t live communism  and you think you know, what it is so you   
   don`t have any idea of  your dangerous  ignorance   
      
   "Tommi Höynälänmaa"  wrote in message   
   news:TjH9h.59407$dS2.2018@reader1.news.jippii.net...   
   > Mike kirjoitti:   
   >> The Black Book of the Sandinistas   
   >> By Jamie Glazov   
   >> FrontPageMagazine.com | November 21, 2006   
   >>   
   >> Daniel Ortega, the former leader of Nicaragua's Sandinista Marxist   
   >> regime (1979-1990), has regained power after winning his country's   
   >> presidential election last Tuesday.   
   >>   
   >> Fears abound in Washington that Ortega will join the anti-U.S. bloc in   
   >> Latin America being manufactured by Hugo Chavez.   
   >>   
   >> Many questions remain. One of them: why was this ruthless dictator   
   >> voted into office by a people who once threw him out? There are no   
   >> simple answers, but a peoples' support for their own tormentors is,   
   >> obviously, no new phenomenon. Russia, for instance, is currently   
   >> experiencing a resurgence of nostalgia for Joseph Stalin -- as new   
   >> monuments are being erected in several Russian communities to honor the   
   >> former genocidal dictator.   
   >   
   > Sandinistas gained power by overthrowing Somoza dictatorship in 1979 and   
   > they won elections in 1984.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Aside from the economic and political frustrations facing Nicaraguans,   
   >> another factor clearly played a key role in the election drama: young   
   >> Nicaraguan voters had no real memory of who the Sandinistas were and   
   >> what crimes they perpetrated against their own people.   
   >>   
   >> A trip down memory lane is in order:   
   >>   
   >> Upon capturing power in Nicaragua in July, 1979, the Sandinistas   
   >> immediately Stalinized the country and aligned themselves with Castro   
   >> and the Soviet Empire, making their country a base for the export of   
   >> Marxist revolution throughout Central America.   
   >   
   > There is nothing wrong with supporting armed liberation movements.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Like all of its communist role models, the new regime constructed a   
   >> fascistic apparatus to maintain rigid control. Following in the   
   >> footsteps of Castro's Cuba, it set up neighborhood associations as   
   >> local spy networks for the government. Each neighborhood had a Comité   
   >> de Defensa Sandinista (CDS - Sandinista Defense Committee) that served   
   >> the same totalitarian purpose as the Cuban CDR and the Nazi regime's   
   >> block overseers --although the power of the CDS extended far beyond the   
   >> Nazis' model. [1]   
   >   
   > Neighborhood associations sound quite democratic. After the revolution in   
   > 1979 the Sandinista government was attacked by the contras. USA has   
   > attacked against Leftist governments in Latin America several times.   
   > Defense against internal and external counterrevolutionary elements is not   
   > totalitarianism.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> In emulating Castro and their other communist heroes such as Stalin and   
   >> Mao, the Sandinistas took control of everything in the country: mass   
   >> organizations, the army, police, labor unions, and the media.   
   >   
   > In Bourgeois states there is usually a conservative hegemony in the army   
   > and in the police.   
   >   
   > I myself support a Marxist hegemony over all the society since Marxism is   
   > the ideology of the oppressed. You don't have to be neutral in the   
   > struggle between good and evil.   
   >   
   > Sandinistas had quite large popular support and they won elections in   
   > 1984. So what is the problem if they took control of the whole society?   
   >   
   >> They   
   >> censored all freedom of speech, suspended the right of association and   
   >> ruthlessly crushed the freedom of trade unions.   
   >   
   > I remember that I have read some books about Sandinist Nicaragua.   
   > According to them the opposition could express its ideas quite freely   
   > there. AFAIK opposition parties could operate in Sandinist Nicaragua.   
   >   
   >> Faithful to their   
   >> Marxist ideology, the new tyrants seized the means of production. State   
   >> controls and nationalization spread, aid to the private sector and   
   >> incentives for foreign investment disappeared. To put it plainly,   
   >> another 20th-century experiment with socialism annihilated a nation's   
   >> economy along with a peoples' prospects for a better life.   
   >   
   > Nationalization is democratization of the economy.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Thousands of Nicaraguans who attempted to protect their property -- or   
   >> who simply committed the crime of owning private property -- were   
   >> imprisoned, tortured, or executed by the new despots.   
   >>   
   >> Unlike the previous regime of Anastasio Somoza, the Sandinistas did not   
   >> leave the native populations on the Atlantic coast of Nicaragua in   
   >> peace. In Khmer Rouge style, they inflicted a ruthless, forcible   
   >> relocation of thousands of Indians from their land. Like Stalin and   
   >> Mao, the new regime used state-created famine as a weapon against these   
   >> "enemies of the people." [2] The Sandinista army committed myriad   
   >> atrocities against the Indian population, killing and imprisoning   
   >> approximately 15,000 innocent people. The Sandinista crimes included   
   >> not only mass murders of innocent natives themselves, but a calculated   
   >> liquidation of their entire leadership -- as the Soviets had   
   >> perpetrated against the Poles in the Katyn Forest Massacre, when the   
   >> Soviet secret police executed approximately 15,000 Polish officers in   
   >> the spring of 1940.   
   >   
   > AFAIK the conflicts between Indians were part of the war against contras.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> The Sandinistas quickly distinguished themselves as one of the worst   
   >> human rights abusers in Latin America, carrying out approximately 8,000   
   >> political executions within three years of the revolution. The number   
   >> of "anti-revolutionary" Nicaraguans who disappeared while in Sandinista   
   >> hands numbered in the thousands. By 1983, the number of political   
   >> prisoners inside the new Marxist regime's jails was estimated at   
   >> 20,000. [3] This was the highest number of political prisoners in any   
   >> nation in the hemisphere -- except, of course, in Castro's Cuba. By   
   >> 1986, a vicious and violent Sandinista "resettlement program"   
   >> forced some 200,000 Nicaraguans into 145 "settlements" throughout   
   >> the country. This monstrous social engineering program entailed the   
   >> designation of "free-fire" zones in which Sandinista government   
   >> troops shot and killed any peasant of their choosing. [4]   
   >   
   > Are these figures reliable?   
   >   
   > Were there some people who were executed because of their crimes during   
   > the Somoza dictaroship?   
   >   
      
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