From: joshb@xs4all.nl   
      
   On 2007-03-27, uri wrote:   
   > On Mar 26, 9:22 pm, dorothy...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >> How come communist leaders are losing to "democracy".   
   >   
   > Communism lost to greed, self-interest and Capitalism. But real   
   > communism has never existed anyway. For real communism to take place,   
   > money and the payment system need to be abolished for the greater   
   > good. If products in the supermarkets were free for everyone, then we   
   > have achieved communism. But currently i don't think humanity is ready   
   > for communism.   
      
   That's why the aim is always on "socialism", which is defined as   
   "that which supersedes Capitalism." There are many socialist political   
   parties, but they do little else but smear the name "socialism,"   
   because they do not even want to end capitalism. Therefore they are   
   not formally socialist parties, but only pretence (liars). Ofcourse   
   they know this (presumably), but the voters don't (seem to).   
      
   I figure it is really very simple: abolish capitalism by nationalizing   
   all banks and (large) investments, deny capitalists (economic gamblers)   
   state protections in law (protections for loan/investment contracts),   
   and to make sure put a maximum on wealth owned in money. That ends   
   capitalism and its negative effects on companies, and would therefore   
   formally start socialism. Naturally the system could be improved beyond   
   this "bare bones post-capitalism." But it would achieve a lot, and make   
   the democratic government the sole government (not in competition with   
   capital anymore). Since it is a rather simple change, it is very   
   practical to achieve. The government should then be kept strictly   
   subservient and democratic, or else it would act as a single private   
   investor (State Capitalism).   
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