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|    17 Apr 07 19:51:41    |
      XPost: alt.politics.socialism, alt.politics.british, uk.       XPost: politics.misc       From: thewordovermassesagainstheclasses@massesagainsttheclasses.com              Businesses never spontaneously take into account the interest of the       capitalist class as a whole, let alone that of society in general. They       have always acted on the basis that, as Thatcher put it, there is no       such thing as society. One result has been the current global       overwarming, which Nicholas Stern, in his report to the Labour       government on the economics of climate change, described as the biggest       market failure ever.              Businesses leave it to governments to represent the overall capitalist       interest but, even here, they are reluctant to let governments interfere       with their freedom to make profits in the way they want. Not that, these       days, governments want to impose coercive restrictions on capitalist       businesses. Environment minister David Miliband has openly declared:              “Climate change is, according to Sir Nicholas Stern, the greatest ever       market failure, but the answer is not to replace markets. Instead, we       need to price pollution into markets and extend market mechanisms so       that they work more effectively” (Times, 12 February).              In other words, calling on Beelzebub to cast outBeelzebub. But some       supporters of Beelzebub are not content even with this light touch. In       an article entitled “A free market solution to global warming” the US       business correspondent of the Times, Gerard Baker, put it ironically        “Man-made global warming is, if the critics are correct,the biggest       example of market failure in the history of theplanet. It makes Marx’s       critique of capitalism look like nitpicking. Inequality and labour       alienation we can live with.Global warming is a bit harder” ( 20 February).              He then went on to point out that the sort of measures envisaged by       Stern and Miliband wouldn’t be enough: “Despite reassuringly low-cost       estimates from the likes of Sir Nicholas Stern, attempting to arrest and       then roll back carbon emissions by relatively mild taxation and       regulatory measures over decades looks a tall order. If you are really       serious about it, you need to be thinking in terms of an internationally       mandated programme of regulation and control over economic activity that       will surpass anything ever seen in human history”.              Capitalism, he implies, just couldn’t afford this: “The real present-day       cost of reducing carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere substantially       below where they are now is almost certainly prohibitive and ruinous to       economic growth”.              As an alternative to what he calls “the leap into the socialist abyss”       he advocates “measures to limit the effects of global warming –       improving sea defences for example”. One better than King Canute but       likely to be just as ineffective in the long run. Not that socialists       advocate “an internationally mandated programme of regulation and       control” over capitalist businesses. What we want is for the production       of the useful things that people need to live and enjoy life to be taken       out of the hands of profit-seeking enterprises altogether.              We want the means of production to be owned in common by the whole       community as the only basis on which production can be organised to take       account of the overall interest of all the members of society.              In socialism there won’t be any profit-seeking capitalist enterprises to       regulate; just democratically-run productive unitsproducing, in an       ecologically and socially acceptable way, what people need.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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