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   Message 7,401 of 8,857   
   brique to Dan Clore   
   Re: Anarchism - arguments for and agains   
   29 Apr 07 00:33:29   
   
   XPost: alt.politics, alt.anarchism, alt.politics.libertarian   
   XPost: alt.politics.socialism   
   From: briquenoir@freeuk.c0m   
      
   Dan Clore  wrote in message   
   news:59ejsnF2jsrnsU1@mid.individual.net...   
   > Qazfez wrote:   
   > > "James A. Donald"  wrote in message   
   > > news:6rba23hnmsumhjf284714223r4cl4e104v@4ax.com...   
   > >> On 17 Apr 2007 07:12:22 -0700, uri  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> ANARCHISM (from the Gr. , and , contrary to authority), the name given   
   > >>> to a principle or theory of life and conduct under which society is   
   > >>> conceived without government - harmony in such a society being   
   > >>> obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority,   
   > >>> but by free agreements concluded between the various groups,   
   >   
   >    
   >  >>> territorial and professional, freely constituted for the sake of   
   >                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
   >  >>> production and consumption, as also for the satisfaction of the   
   >  >>> infinite variety of needs and aspirations of a civilized being.   
   >    
   >   
   > >> Groups have no moral authority to agree to anything.  Only individuals   
   > >> can agree to things.   
   > >   
   > > Clever guy. You tell him.   
   >   
   > This is truly brilliant -- according to this, individuals cannot   
   > voluntarily form groups that can make agreements. This will give   
   > companies, NGOs, unions, etc. etc. etc. a truly difficult time   
   > operating. One can only imagine someone who believes this going shopping   
   >   and attempting to act on this principle, finding himself unable to buy   
   > anything from a store because only individuals, not groups (e.g.,   
   > companies), have the "moral authority" to sell things.   
      
   It will kinda fuck up the libertarian notion of banding together in   
   self-defence leagues or mutual insurance groups as well. Buggers up the   
   'market-place' too, after all, they would have no moral right to operate any   
   exchange mechanism or medium beyond one-on-one barter.   
      
   Still, at least it will still leave a place for one man and his guns... all   
   different calibres, of course, after all, can't have anyone enforcing   
   something so vile as a standard form of measurement....   
      
      
   >   
   > --   
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   >   
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