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   From: briquenoir@freeuk.c0m   
      
   James A. Donald  wrote in message   
   news:beb833lc29vbhl7vnh2m1oqvht2glqoe3f@4ax.com...   
   > James A. Donald:   
   > > > > > Close, but not quite.  Obviously others can coerce   
   > > > > > illegally.  Further, governments in advanced   
   > > > > > countries generally permit one to forcefully eject   
   > > > > > trespassers, and guests that refuse to leave, though   
   > > > > > in third world countries this is frequently illegal.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So the most accurate definition is that a government   
   > > > > > is overwhelmingly victorious against its subjects,   
   > > > > > so much so that its subjects come to accept that it   
   > > > > > may use force in ways that they may not.   
   >   
   >  "*Anarcissie*"   
   > > > > That's not a definition, though.   
   >   
   > James A. Donald:   
   > > > Yes it is:  Whosoever so thoroughly defeats people in   
   > > > some area, is a government.   
   >   
   > "brique"   
   > > A group of armed men can ride through an area, lay waste to the   
   townships,   
   > > slaughter the populace, steal all the valuables and carry on riding   
   until   
   > > they leave the area.   
   >   
   > If they stick around, they are the government.   
      
   Which was not part of your original comment but does now qualify it   
   sufficiently to provide a working definition.   
      
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