XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.socialism, alt.politics   
   From: plato5@dreft.org   
      
   mark.evins@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Jul 4, 1:09 am, boras  wrote:   
   >> mark.ev...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>> On Jul 3, 9:28 am, boras  wrote:   
   >>>> mark.ev...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>>> On Jul 2, 2:53 pm, Roger Johansson  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Jul 2, 9:11 pm, J.H.Boersema wrote:   
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   >>>>> Let's say that what I really need is some antibiotics, and my neighbor   
   >>>>> three doors down makes them. But he doesn't have any that he's willing   
   >>>>> to give away.   
   >>>> The ancient Greeks went through this.   
   >>>> " A doctor must help a sick person even if that person has no money to   
   >>>> pay him ".   
   >>>> If a woman falls down would you help her up only if she is young and   
   >>>> good looking?   
   >>>> Ethics is about doing the right thing even if there is no personal gain   
   >>>> in this.   
   >>> I didn't mention a doctor, I mentioned a chemist who could make   
   >>> antibiotics. Since "individual liberty" is the prime concern, I don't   
   >>> need a doctor to acquire antibiotics... unless you're suggesting that   
   >>> 1) I'm not competent to be responsible for myself and 2) somebody has   
   >>> to authorize me to take antibiotics and 3) somebody has to be   
   >>> authorized to dispense such...  Lot's of levels of authority there.   
   >>>   What happened to "do as I like"?   
   >> We have laws about it in this society.   
   >> It's called " refusing to help somebody in a emergency situation ".   
   >> If the person is very sick and would greatly suffer or die without your   
   >> antibiotics and there is no other source nearby for him to get   
   >> antibiotics you would held accountable for his death or suffering.   
   >   
   > Hogwash.   
   > Antibiotics are used against bacterial infection; no "emergency"   
   > involved. You're diverting the question instead of addressing it.   
      
   So it's more like somebody has diarrhea and you would refuse to give him   
   toilet paper or active carbon if you had some?   
   No Problem. Next time you need something he will  refused to you.   
      
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   >>>> Once I was hungry and a passerby took note.   
   >>>> He bought me some food.   
   >>>> I wanted to repay him somehow.   
   >>>> He said I don't need too but if some day I met some hungry person and I   
   >>>> was financially better of then now I should do to him as he did to me.   
   >>>> By him some food.   
   >>>> I think thats what social consciousness is about.   
   >>> That's nice. What about the fellow who defines social conciousness as   
   >>> "everybody does what I say and I get the lion's share"?   
   >> He will be get a bullet someday.   
   >   
   > Or not. Kinda depends on how strong his rule is and whether those he   
   > rules find it livable.   
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