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   Message 7,590 of 8,857   
   tgm to All   
   Re: Truth=Fantasy   
   23 Jul 07 01:30:03   
   
   XPost: alt.politics, alt.anarchism, alt.freedom   
   From: tgm3@verizon.net   
      
   In article ,   
   publicmien@yahoo.com.INV says...   
   >   
   >   
   >In article , tgm3@verizon.net says...   
   >>   
   >>In article <7Xuoi.36740$G23.33469@newsreading01.news.tds.net>,   
   >>publicmien@yahoo.com.INV says...   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."[Ge 1:1]   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>In case you're parents did't tell you, there is no Santa Clause.   
   >>   
   >>You make or provide a lot of statements but have no proof nor substantial   
   >>evidence to back them up.  Just why should anyone believe you?  (Rhetorical,   
   >>since all I would receive in response would be more mumble jumble).   
   >>   
   >   
   >It makes perfect logical sense to reject a book that refers to itself   
   >as proof, and where it's defenders best evidence is a rigorous articulation   
   >of their faith in the content as being true.  For myself,   
   >the anchor that gives me faith in the Bible is in the book of Genesis and   
   >the opening words "In the beginning God..."; both as a   
   >best explanation of all this (as opposed to chance and millions of years);   
   >as well as the imperjurability of it, all of it, all the way through to   
   >the book of Revelations.   
      
   Most every society in history has a myth about the creation of the Universe.   
   Apparently humans have a curiosity about their origins and rationalize a means   
   by which it occurred.  Yours is neither scientifically correct nor very   
   believable.  The Incas creation myth is much more interesting.   
      
   >While the Holy Bible is historically incontrovertible (I've. either directly   
   >supported, incontrovertible due to lack of evidence for alternative hypots,   
   >or supported by the weakness of alternative hypots such as biological   
   evolution   
   >and physical happenstance), it is only by faith that forms when such   
   >intangibles as 'heart' and 'spirit' are prepared that we are willing   
   >to admit the obvious truth of God contained in the Holy Bible.   
   >As explained in the book of Romans in Chapter 2, it is the impenitent   
   >heart (hence non-repentence) that prevents reconciliation with our Creator.   
   >We cannot "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ" to be saved, as advised in the   
   >Holy Bible, unless we recognize the need for a Savior.   
      
   The Hindus have just as much faith in reincarnation as you do in salvation.   
   Since there are more Hindu's than Christian's shouldn't I believe them rather   
   than you?  Since myths of an afterlife are also prevalent in most every culture   
   it is apparent that they are just that, myths.   
      
   >"The first verse of the Bible is the key to understanding   
   >the entire Bible.  The devil is well aware of this fact,   
   >evidenced by his direct attack upon the first five books of   
   >God's Word.  Jesus affirmed the importance of these books   
   >written by Moses:  'And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,   
   >He expounded unto them in all the Scriptures the things concerning   
   >Himself' (Lk. 24:27).  Whether or not one believes this passage   
   >determines not only one's beliefs while on this earth but also   
   >one's eternal destiny.  If one believes the opening statement   
   >of Scripture--'In the beginning God'--the rest of the Bible opens   
   >before him.  As he gazes into the sky, the believer sees confirmation   
   >of these words.  In his ears ring the proclamation of the psalmist,   
   >'The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth   
   >His handiwork' (Psa. 19:1).  By believing the first statement of   
   >the Bible, the reader finds throughout the Scriptures answers to   
   >the great questions of life:  What is the purpose of my life?  Is   
   >there life after death?  Most importantly, one finds the Savior,   
   >who said, 'I am come that they might have life, and that they might   
   >have it more abundantly' (Jn. 10:10).   
      
   So now we have TWO supernatural aliens influencing our lives?  A god without   
   form or substance and his evil twin the devil.  The plot thickens as the   
   antagonist appears!  But what are they competing for, what's the conflict?  I   
   know let's make up something called the soul.  Then whoever collects the most   
   souls wins.  Of course we can't just end it there.  We can promise an ending,   
   maybe a rapture or a second coming, something like that.  And we can put it far   
   enough in the future so we can keep the story plot running for ages.   
      
   Now that's a story I think we can sell.  All we have to do is have the people   
   suspend their disbelief and get caught up in the story!   
      
   >"In direct contrast, the one who rejects the opening statement of   
   >Scripture finds that the Bible remains a closed book.  Instead   
   >of the wonder of the heavens which declare the glory of God,   
   >the unbeliever declares, 'In the beginning E=MC^2,' or, 'In the   
   >beginning was the big bang.'  Purpose is replaced with   
   >meaninglessness, and 'survival of the fittest' replaces the   
   >hope of heaven.  Throughout an eternity in hell, the unbeliever   
   >will be left with the haunting reality of 'In the beginning   
   >God...'(Rom. 1:20)." [1]   
      
   Yeah, don't worry about reality or scientific findings.   Most people don't   
   know   
   enough about those things to cause us much problem.  If they do, we can just   
   change the story line to include those findings we can't dispute.   
      
      
   Tom   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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