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   From: briquenoir@freeuk.c0m   
      
   James A. Donald  wrote in message   
   news:iqvka3pf8f4f9kh20331v0ms8gh7hidki6@4ax.com...   
   > "brique"   
   > > And there you go..... now, according to you,   
   > > capitalism wasn't proper capitalism prior to the 20C..   
   >   
   > It was perfectly good capitalism, but natural forces   
   > were stronger relative to humans back then.   
      
   But capitalism succeeds because it supposedly harnesses technology.... but   
   there was no technology to harness... but it was capitalism still, you   
   say...... so, account for the famines it produced.... oh.... hang on....   
   capitalism doesn't cause famines... it was 'natural forces'.... what happend   
   to war and socialism?   
      
   >   
   > Before the twentieth century, really serious famines   
   > were caused by  war, socialism and natural disasters.   
      
   Socialism before the 20C...... that Marx was damn good, wasn't he....   
      
   >   
   > Today, humans are stronger, and nature weaker, so really   
   > serious famines are only caused by war and socialism,   
   > only caused by willful and intentional human evil, not   
   > by the blind indifference of the natural universe   
      
   And, of course, not due to the blind indifference of the market place....   
   which happily saw food exported from famine zones of India, Ireland,   
   Ethiopia and China...... regardless of the poltical label you stick on the   
   economy.....   
      
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