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   Message 7,623 of 8,857   
   Roger Johansson to James Beck   
   Re: Starving the Poor   
   03 Aug 07 18:23:40   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.politics, alt.politics.socialism   
   From: roger4911@yahoo.com   
      
   On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:11:22 -0400, James Beck wrote:   
      
   > In article <1sm9s88k66yml.1eceaf5ym0w4v$.dlg@40tude.net>, roger4911   
   > @yahoo.com says...   
   >>   
   >> I live in the European Union, a union which is 3-4 times bigger than USA,   
   >> and a lot more peaceful, healthier and happier.   
   >> We also have very good relations with the other big countries on our   
   >> continent, the Russian Federation, China and India, and north Africa where   
   >> several countries are associated members of EU.   
      
      
   > I guess they don't teach world history in the EU.   
      
   The average european speaks two or more languages, and knows a thousand   
   times more about world history than the average american who cannot even   
   point out his own country on a world map.   
      
   > Europe has a nice rich history of war, disease, slavery, tyranny, and   
   > religious extremism.   
      
   Just like the rest of the world.   
   But it got a little better when the worst religious extremists emigrated to   
   USA.   
      
   > Just because YOU feel all warm and fuzzy now,   
   > doesn't mean that will be the case 50 years from now or even 50 days   
   > from now.  Let's see how you handle Putin's sabre rattling.   
      
   Putin is our best friend. He and his coworkers found a way to reunite   
   Europe and end the cold war in a peaceful way.   
   Orders went out from Moscow to all the communist countries to forget about   
   the communist label and open up their borders for foreign investment   
   capital.   
   When the people in east and west Berlin started tearing the Berlin wall   
   down the east German soldiers were ordered to stay in their quarters and do   
   nothing about it.   
      
   All the communist countries followed the orders and dismounted the   
   communist symbols. Except Yugoslavia, which didn't take orders from Moscow,   
   so another solution had to be found to slice up and incorporate Yugoslavia   
   into the new Euro-Soviet EU system.   
      
   Putin is not so popular in USA, of course, so your media portray him   
   differently than media in the rest of the world.   
      
   USA came to Europe in 1944 to stop communism from liberating the whole of   
   Europe from fascism. USA divided Europe into western Europe and eastern   
   Europe, and europeans have since then tried to find a way to reunite Europe   
   again.   
   Garbatjov and Putin found the way to do it, by abolishing the communist   
   label and adopting the social democrat system instead of traditional   
   communism.   
      
   If we go a little further back in the history of Europe we remember how   
   fascism was inspired by the pope in 1891, (look up Fascism in wikipedia).   
   Mussolini changed the name from corporatism into the name fascism.   
   The rich bankers in Europe and USA, Wall street bankers and Henry Ford   
   supported Hitler and Mussolini to eradicate socialism, workers unions and   
   Soviet Union in Europe.   
      
   The first people who were rounded up and transported to concentration camps   
   were socialists, social democrats, labor union leaders and communists.   
      
   The Soviet people saved us from a fascist future, the german armies were   
   pressed backwards, and USA had to invade Europe in 1944 to save at least a   
   part of Europe for capitalism, and to grab as much as possible of the   
   advanced german technology.   
      
   The worker's movement and labor unions never succeded really well in USA,   
   because they were heavily attacked by the capitalists and their henchmen,   
   the police and the mafia. Therefor there is no tradition of worker's   
   movement and real democracy in USA, which is a plutocracy and not a real   
   democracy.   
      
   Do you want more history lessons?   
      
      
   --   
   Roger J.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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