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|    Roger Johansson to James Beck    |
|    Re: Starving the Poor    |
|    03 Aug 07 18:23:40    |
      XPost: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.politics, alt.politics.socialism       From: roger4911@yahoo.com              On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:11:22 -0400, James Beck wrote:              > In article <1sm9s88k66yml.1eceaf5ym0w4v$.dlg@40tude.net>, roger4911       > @yahoo.com says...       >>       >> I live in the European Union, a union which is 3-4 times bigger than USA,       >> and a lot more peaceful, healthier and happier.       >> We also have very good relations with the other big countries on our       >> continent, the Russian Federation, China and India, and north Africa where       >> several countries are associated members of EU.                     > I guess they don't teach world history in the EU.              The average european speaks two or more languages, and knows a thousand       times more about world history than the average american who cannot even       point out his own country on a world map.              > Europe has a nice rich history of war, disease, slavery, tyranny, and       > religious extremism.              Just like the rest of the world.       But it got a little better when the worst religious extremists emigrated to       USA.              > Just because YOU feel all warm and fuzzy now,       > doesn't mean that will be the case 50 years from now or even 50 days       > from now. Let's see how you handle Putin's sabre rattling.              Putin is our best friend. He and his coworkers found a way to reunite       Europe and end the cold war in a peaceful way.       Orders went out from Moscow to all the communist countries to forget about       the communist label and open up their borders for foreign investment       capital.       When the people in east and west Berlin started tearing the Berlin wall       down the east German soldiers were ordered to stay in their quarters and do       nothing about it.              All the communist countries followed the orders and dismounted the       communist symbols. Except Yugoslavia, which didn't take orders from Moscow,       so another solution had to be found to slice up and incorporate Yugoslavia       into the new Euro-Soviet EU system.              Putin is not so popular in USA, of course, so your media portray him       differently than media in the rest of the world.              USA came to Europe in 1944 to stop communism from liberating the whole of       Europe from fascism. USA divided Europe into western Europe and eastern       Europe, and europeans have since then tried to find a way to reunite Europe       again.       Garbatjov and Putin found the way to do it, by abolishing the communist       label and adopting the social democrat system instead of traditional       communism.              If we go a little further back in the history of Europe we remember how       fascism was inspired by the pope in 1891, (look up Fascism in wikipedia).       Mussolini changed the name from corporatism into the name fascism.       The rich bankers in Europe and USA, Wall street bankers and Henry Ford       supported Hitler and Mussolini to eradicate socialism, workers unions and       Soviet Union in Europe.              The first people who were rounded up and transported to concentration camps       were socialists, social democrats, labor union leaders and communists.              The Soviet people saved us from a fascist future, the german armies were       pressed backwards, and USA had to invade Europe in 1944 to save at least a       part of Europe for capitalism, and to grab as much as possible of the       advanced german technology.              The worker's movement and labor unions never succeded really well in USA,       because they were heavily attacked by the capitalists and their henchmen,       the police and the mafia. Therefor there is no tradition of worker's       movement and real democracy in USA, which is a plutocracy and not a real       democracy.              Do you want more history lessons?                     --       Roger J.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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