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   Message 7,721 of 8,857   
   Ron Allen to uri   
   Re: Is Greed Good?   
   25 Nov 07 19:00:32   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.libertarian, alt.politics.socialism, alt.po   
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   XPost: alt.philosophy.debate   
   From: rallen2@bellsouth.net   
      
   uri wrote:   
    > Greed is part of human nature. This is why   
    > communism failed because it tried to do away   
    > with greed.   
      
      
   Ron Allen wrote:   
    > If greed is only a part of human nature, then   
    > perhaps there is another part of human nature.   
    > Perhaps this other part of human nature is   
    > generosity.   
      
      
   Michael Price wrote:   
    > Ron, why is it that you think you're being   
    > profound when you say things everyone agrees on?   
      
      
   Ron Allen wrote:   
    > If greed were the only makeup of human nature,   
    > or if greed were the dominating part of human   
    > nature, then what would this imply about human   
    > freedom?   
      
      
      
   Michael Price wrote:   
    > That it would be used to benefit the possessor   
    > of that freedom, as it is.   
      
      
      
   Ron Allen wrote:   
    > If human nature is mostly or only greed, then is   
    > there human freedom of choice?   
      
      
   Michael Price wrote:   
    > Why wouldn't there be?   
      
      
      
   Ron Allen wrote:   
    > Is a human being free to choose between either   
    > being greedy, or being generous?   
      
      
      
   tidywaving@hotmail.com wrote:   
    > Greed and generosity are both survival   
    > instincts.  The choice of which is dependent   
    > upon many variables.   
      
      
   Ron Allen answers:   
   I agree.   
      
      
   Michael Price wrote:   
    > Of course, why is the commonplace so hard for   
    > you to understand.   
      
      
   Ron Allen wrote:   
    > If human beings are both greedy and generous,   
    > then human beings can make a decision to be   
    > either one or the other.  If human beings are   
    > both, then what does a greedy social context do   
    > to energize and to motivate the greedy side of   
    > human nature?   
      
      
      
   Michael Price wrote:   
    > What the hell are you talking about?   
      
      
   Ron Allen wrote:   
    > What would a more generous social environment do   
    > to awaken and to activate the generous part of   
    > human nature?   
      
      
   Michael Price wrote:   
    > A lot more than your schemes would.   
      
      
      
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