XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.immigration, alt.anarchism   
   XPost: alt.politics.socialism   
   From: imam@divinepraxeology.org   
      
   In article ,   
    none@isp.com (Dersu Uzala) wrote:   
      
   > In article   
   > <3946eaa0-0882-4a51-9f6e-208d8d32e27d@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,   
   > anarcissie@gmail.com says...   
   > >   
   > >On Dec 22, 10:46 pm, n...@isp.com (Dersu Uzala) wrote:   
   > >> In article , ja   
   ...@echeque.com   
   > >> says...   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >> >Dersu Uzala:   
   > >> >> As I said in my post, you can exploit a resource more,   
   > >> >> but you can't create more.   
   > >>   
   > >> >But we are creating more.  Oil is being synthesized   
   > >> >right now, in ever increasing amounts.   
   > >>   
   > >> Clarify this is you can. Are you refering to man made oil?   
   > >> Tar sands? Bio-deisel? What?   
   > >>   
   > >> >> If you know how, please tell the city of Atlanta right   
   > >> >> away, they have a little water problem   
   > >>   
   > >> >Raise the price of water, and let people profit from supplying it:   
   > >> >At a fair price, production will equal consumption.   
   > >>   
   > >> There is no "production" of water, outside of chemical processes that   
   > combine   
   > >> hydrogen and oxygen. Higher prices for water results in greater   
   > exploitation   
   > >> of water resources, not the creation of more water.   
   > >   
   > >There is no shortage of water -- the planet is two-thirds covered   
   > >with it.  The "resource" aspect of water is not just the water itself   
   > >but the fact that the water is in a certain place at a certain time   
   > >and has a certain level of purity.  As demands on the resource   
   > >increase, the cheaper forms of it become scarce, and more   
   > >expensive ones must be sought out.  In the case of Atlanta,   
   > >more water must be obtained from further away and maybe   
   > >processed more extensively, but the resource doesn't run   
   > >out.  No doubt people in Atlanta would probably rather not   
   > >pay more for their water, but on the other hand those selling   
   > >real estate and those looking for employees and customers   
   > >are glad to have people moving in to the area.   
   >   
   > So life becomes more and more expensive, and crowded. No limits to growth!   
   > Consume all the Earth's resources until it is all a shithole. Commerce shall   
   > not be denied!   
      
   That's the thing. Commerce is the holy grail in a capitalistic society   
   at the expense of everything else. That thinking is the source of all   
   kinds of problems- massive illegal immigration, over-development and   
   building, urban sprawl, traffic congestion, increased pollution, and on   
   and on. Even war. It becomes a sickness after a point. I believe we are   
   in that sick phase.   
      
   Imam   
   --   
   If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)