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   XPost: soc.culture.cuba, misc.immigration.usa, soc.culture.usa   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: web2457k@verizon.net   
      
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   > > Mike - - - it really is going overboard. I know some Cuban officials   
   > > personally. They are pretty much like you and me, just folks doing a   
   > > job.   
   > > We   
   > > may have differences of opinions - but they are not bad people. There is   
   > > an   
   > > ideological wall between you and them. The wall is lower for me because   
   > > I   
   > > am   
   > > not Cuban and don't have your passions. At least not to the degree you   
   > > and   
   > > other Cuba ex-patriots have.No matter how much affection I may have, I   
   > > am   
   > > still not Cuban and my understanding will always be limited because of   
   > > that.   
   > > Try as I can, I'll never be you. I don't know what it would take to make   
   > > you   
   > > and the guys IN Cuba realize your brotherhood and get you to reconcile.   
   > > Someday it must happen. Somehow something or someone must HEAL the   
   > > divisions. In that healing forgiveness has to play a role. Seeing the   
   > > other   
   > > guy's point of view. Somehow the two realities must someday collide. I   
   > > think   
   > > that both sides will have to face facts that they have been wrong about   
   > > many   
   > > things. Hate can make good people do evil things. It's getting to be the   
   > > time for the hate to stop. It isn't going to be easy or quick.   
   >   
   > My friend, I am not referring to decent people who think differently   
   > than I do. I believe that they have an important role to play in a   
   > democratic Cuba, as long as they respect my views as I respect theirs.   
   >   
   > I am talking about the essence of a totalitarian regime. I am talking   
   > about those terrorists who planned to bomb New York City in 1962, I am   
   > talking about those who bombed hotels in Argentina and Uruguay and all   
   > over Latin America, killing civilians. I could probably go on for the   
   > next hour and it would not be enough.There are many reasons why the   
   > Castro regime is labeled a terrorist state by the State Department.   
   > =====================   
   >   
   > Mike let's agree - a "socialist state" cannot exist outside a police   
   > state. It just cannot be done without rigid police control. Without the   
   > thgreat of the statre, socialism soon falls apart when people are free to   
   > choose private enterprise. The ONLY way state socialism can exist is with   
   > a   
   > gun to the head of the people enforcing it. It just doesn't work. it never   
   > HAS worked, it enever WILL work. It never CAN work. It's like building a   
   > car   
   > where all 4 wheels are driven independently and each wants to go in a   
   > different directioin from the others   
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   > I agree 100%. I believe that those inside the totalitarian system,   
   > especially inside State Security, understand better than anyone else   
   > how evil and corrupt the system is. They are also the ones that are in   
   > a position to change the system. It has never happened in a   
   > totalitarian state, but Cuba could be the first place it happens.   
      
       Mike, many of the people believe in the system. It is misplaced faith,   
   but there it is. Most of these are good people. They are just sincerely   
   wrong.  I am sure That it is because they have to be blind to the defects or   
   survive the system that exists themselves. But I am friends with some folks   
   that were fairly high placed in the government. They knew we didn't agree on   
   lots of things, we chose not to talk about it rather than destroy a personal   
   friendship. My wife's cousin's husband is a KGB trained state security   
   official and he even tried to engage me on my views. I told him that I did   
   not come to Cuba to argue politics with anyone especially inside the family.   
   I told him; "You and I have very different views, and I would rather have   
   your friendship than even try to win a  political argument with you." He   
   accepted that. He also knew that while I was in Cuba, when anyone brought up   
   politics, I changed the subject. I am smart enough, Mike, to know better   
   than wear out my welcome. They know I have very strong opinions, but that I   
   leave them in Florida when I visit Cuba. Actually many of my opinions aren't   
   unfavorable to Cuba. Just when I confront an asshole like Christensen or   
   Barry or Fred.   
      
       I think Cuba will evolve on its own calendar Mike. Much like China and   
   Viet Nam. The people in Cuba KNOW the present system is a cluster fukkk.   
   They'll fix it eventually. Better to keep our mouths shut and just quietly   
   place a tool here and there along the way to help them rather than try to   
   trip them up. Just be patient.   
      
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